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How To Witness To Mormons - Our Philosophy of Ministry
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Posted on 09/15/2011 6:02:54 PM PDT by Graybeard58

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To: Utah Binger

You are correct. In being so you will have to withstand the lashes of spaghetti noodles from those who are so incaple of acknowledging God that they can’t follow Him without the guidance of someone else to tell them what to do and how to think.


21 posted on 09/16/2011 6:09:57 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Democrats: debt, dependence and derision)
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To: Loud Mime

So, in other words you believe that truth is relative to what one thinks.


22 posted on 09/16/2011 7:03:07 AM PDT by Turtlepower
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To: Graybeard58

Amen, Graybeard. The good news is that because I am in Christ, and because of what He accomplished on my behalf, I can stand pure and blameless in the courts of heaven.

As for witnessing to Mormons, my thought is that we should witness to a Mormon as we witness to any other unbeliever. When asked should we differentiate our doctrine from theirs? Yes Should we let them know there is a difference? Absolutely

I believe the best way to witness to any lost person is via the gospel. I think believers are to be in the gospel sharing business, not the saving business. Scripture says, “Salvation is of the Lord.” Unless he awakens a soul dead in sins and trespasses, our words and clever argumentation are of no effect. We can never talk anyone into heaven. We can talk them into making a decision, walking an aisle, joining a church, getting baptized, etc., but we can never talk a dead doul awake. Only God can do that.

So, I think we simply share His Word, His truth. We can stand on the promise that His word never returns void. If He gives a man ears to hear, the man will hear. In John 10 Christ said, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.” His sheep, those appointed unto eternal life, will hear the truth and come.

Romans 1 says that the gospel is the power of God unto salvation to everyone who believes. Accordingly, I believe we should spread the gospel (the power of God) to every living soul and leave the results in His hands.


23 posted on 09/16/2011 7:13:34 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Graybeard58

Amen, Graybeard. The good news is that because I am in Christ, and because of what He accomplished on my behalf, I can stand pure and blameless in the courts of heaven.

As for witnessing to Mormons, my thought is that we should witness to a Mormon as we witness to any other unbeliever. When asked should we differentiate our doctrine from theirs? Yes Should we let them know there is a difference? Absolutely

I believe the best way to witness to any lost person is via the gospel. I think believers are to be in the gospel sharing business, not the saving business. Scripture says, “Salvation is of the Lord.” Unless he awakens a soul dead in sins and trespasses, our words and clever argumentation are of no effect. We can never talk anyone into heaven. We can talk them into making a decision, walking an aisle, joining a church, getting baptized, etc., but we can never talk a dead doul awake. Only God can do that.

So, I think we simply share His Word, His truth. We can stand on the promise that His word never returns void. If He gives a man ears to hear, the man will hear. In John 10 Christ said, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.” His sheep, those appointed unto eternal life, will hear the truth and come.

Romans 1 says that the gospel is the power of God unto salvation to everyone who believes. Accordingly, I believe we should spread the gospel (the power of God) to every living soul and leave the results in His hands.


24 posted on 09/16/2011 7:13:44 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Graybeard58

your moderator buddy is complicient


25 posted on 09/16/2011 8:14:13 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

prove it - point out mormon bashing that has occurred. If you can’t then retract your accusation.


26 posted on 09/16/2011 9:19:12 AM PDT by Turtlepower
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To: Loud Mime
lashes of spaghetti noodles

Al dente! LOL

27 posted on 09/16/2011 9:39:04 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where INVITED Freepers will meet again next summer. Jim Robinson Too)
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To: Utah Binger
Al dente! LOL

Oh, you're talking about pasta. At first, I thought you were being an anti dentite.

(Now, I'm hoping you get that reference, otherwise, it's meaningless)

28 posted on 09/16/2011 9:06:13 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ythrdCsOFJU


29 posted on 09/17/2011 5:17:23 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where INVITED Freepers will meet again next summer. Jim Robinson Too)
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To: Graybeard58

“Never bashed a Mormon in my life, nor have I witnessed it on this forum.”

Oh, I see. Apparently it’s OK to condemn us Mormons to hell, make fun of us, trash our Faith and our Savior and our Church; then claim it’s not bashing and go merrily on your way. P.S. Judging one’s spiritual fitness or lack thereof is God’s job, not any puny mere human’s.


30 posted on 09/20/2011 12:28:21 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Graybeard58

“Never bashed a Mormon in my life, nor have I witnessed it on this forum.”

Oh, I see. Apparently it’s OK to condemn us Mormons to hell, make fun of us, trash our Faith and our Savior and our Church; then claim it’s not bashing and go merrily on your way. P.S. Judging one’s spiritual fitness or lack thereof is God’s job, not any puny mere human’s.


31 posted on 09/20/2011 12:28:44 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: .45 Long Colt

“we should witness to a Mormon as we witness to any other unbeliever”

Jesus Christ is my Savior but you have already condemned me to hell because I am a Mormon. Interesting.


32 posted on 09/20/2011 12:34:27 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Oh, I see. Apparently it’s OK to condemn us Mormons to hell, make fun of us, trash our Faith and our Savior and our Church; then claim it’s not bashing and go merrily on your way. P.S. Judging one’s spiritual fitness or lack thereof is God’s job, not any puny mere human’s.

Out of self exile I see.

Who condemned us "mormons" to hell? Somebody on these threads? Show me the quote. Give me a link, it doesn't even have to be clickable.

trash our Faith and our Savior

As long as your "prophet" is somewhere in the mix, mormonism is trash. You have a different savior than I do for that matter. My Savior shed his blood on the cross for my sins, not in the garden and satan is not His brother, nor did He have a physical father, who came down to earth and had sexual intercourse with Mary.

The only time God ever appeared as a man was as His Son Jesus the Savior and King.

That is my great strength.

Repent and be born again, before it's too late. Give up your Joseph Smith idolatry.

33 posted on 09/20/2011 12:58:46 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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“Who condemned us “’mormons’ to hell? “

The very article you are posting to states, “The Mormon’s eternal soul is at stake and he does not know he is perishing.”

If that isn’t condemning me to hell, I don’t know what is.

But I agree with you that your Jesus is not my Jesus. My Jesus accepts me and loves me; He died for me to save me from my sins. Your Jesus rejects me and condemns me to hell. So, yes, your Jesus is different from my Jesus.


34 posted on 09/20/2011 1:07:00 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: greyfoxx39; Tennessee Nana; Elsie; ejonesie22; ansel12; MHGinTN; svcw; Utah Binger; SZonian; ...

She’s baaaaaack.


35 posted on 09/20/2011 1:08:57 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Saundra Duffy

My Savior shed his blood on the cross for my sins, not in the garden and satan is not His brother, nor did He have a physical father, who came down to earth and had sexual intercourse with Mary.


36 posted on 09/20/2011 1:10:25 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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My Jesus accepts me and loves me; He died for me to save me from my sins.

My Jesus said Father forgive them from the cross

The mormon jesus killed tens of thousands.

The mormon jesus doesn't save you from your sins - you are required to become sinless by your own works. Fact is SD - YOUR VERY OWN SCRIPTURES support me on this point. ALMA 11:37 states it very clearly - “And I say unto you again that he cannot save them in their sins; for I cannot deny his word, and he hath said that no unclean thing can inherit the kingdom of heaven; therefore, how can ye be saved, except ye inherit the kingdom of heaven? Therefore, ye cannot be saved in your sins.” Further ALMA 45:16 states “…for the Lord cannot look upon sin with the least degree of allowance.”

Yes SD - the mormon jesus is different from the Jesus found in the Bible.

37 posted on 09/20/2011 1:32:34 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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Aww, quit yer whining. Poor victim of persecution my eye.

The mormons have and do condemn(ed) ALL of Christianity as apostates and Whores of Babylon while at the same time condemning them to "eternal darkness" (mormon hell).

The Biblical Jesus rejects those who reject Him. JS rejected Him by being a purveyor of idolatry, pedophilia, adultery, theft, etc. Any follower of JS is complicit in purveying those very things through their sustaining of him and his successors as a "prophet".

Here's a pretty good picture of the mormon jesus...

In the Book of Mormon, jesus brought death and destruction with him to the Cross. In 3 Nephi, Chapters 8 and 9, it details the events testifying of Christ's crucifixion. It describes the desolation of the great city of Zarahemla by fire, and the city of Moroni "did sink into the sea and the inhabitants thereof were drowned... the earth was carried up upon the city of Mornihah...there was great and terrible destruction in the land southward......terrible destruction in the land northward....the highways were broken up....many great and noble cities were sunk and many burned and many shaken till the buildings thereof had fallen to the earth.....all these great and terrible things were done in the space of three hours."

Here are links to the Official LdS BoM chapters that detail these events:

3 Nephi 8

3 Nephi 9

3 Nephi, Chapter 9, tells of further wrath as the Lord also destroyed the cities and inhabitants of Gigal, Onihah, Mocum, Jerusalem, Gadiandi, Gadiomnah, Jacob, Gimgimmo, Jacobugath, Laman, Josh, Gad, and Kishkumen. (a total of 16 major cities) Who did all this killing to testify of our Lord's atonement on Calvary?

3 Nephi 9:15 reveals the murderer of approximately 2 million innocent inhabitants of the Book of Mormon lands, "Behold, I am Jesus Christ the son of God. I created the heavens and the earth and all things that in them are." He adds, (in verse 21), "behold, I have come unto the world to bring redemption unto the world to save the world from sin."

I guess the easiest way was to kill almost every living creature; at least the vast majority of that portion of his "other sheep have I." This jesus was a god of wrath, exercising some form of Old Testament Judgment by the one who was supposed to be the end of the law.

2 Cor.11:3-5 tells us that there will be those who would teach a different Christ. Paul says of them, "For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ".

It is recorded in the BoM that the mormon christ massacred millions of men, women and children and destroyed at least 16, if not more cities.

Yet, when the Christ of the Bible came back, "do not be afraid", "peace be upon you" recorded numerous times in the Bible. No hint whatsoever of Christ going on a murderous and destructive rampage in the ME.

I wonder, were there no evil folks in the ME for the Biblical Christ to destroy? Since the BoM is claiming all those poor souls the BoM christ destroyed were "evil" and without redemption, is it contended that all the folks in the ME were somehow, "special"?

38 posted on 09/20/2011 1:33:23 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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Good luck with that. Some folks just like to hear themselves type...
39 posted on 09/20/2011 1:39:15 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

People go to hell on their own accord.
The lds jesus is not my Jesus.
lds jesus - created
Biblical Jesus - eternal
lds jesus - brother of satan
Biblical Jesus - is not the brother of satan
lds jesus - paid the price in the garden
Biblical Jesus - paid the price on the Cross
lds jesus - not sufficient IE after all we can do
Biblical Jesus - sufficient, we are Saved by Grace
Yep, Sandy you are correct the lds jesus is not the Biblical Jesus.
The Biblical Jesus loves you and does not want you to spend eternity away from Him. Rejoice, Sandy He is calling you.


40 posted on 09/20/2011 1:41:36 PM PDT by svcw (Do liberals get brain freeze if they eat ice cream to fast? (probably not, no brains))
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