AMEN !!! I may get flamed for this too. I am against the act NOT the person. Folks be very very careful telling people they are going to Hell for you are not the judge.
Let me tell you about my mother, she loved people unconditionally eventhough she was a democrat conservative. There was no grey area for her, it was either wrong or right - period. You see my mother grew up in the church. I have uncles, cousins who are ministers. My mother was not a church goer perse, but she deeply love and believe in God. My mother was told she would go to Hell, etc. Well on day she had a near death experience and she saw Jesus. From what she told me she saw him standing in front of her and she saw children playing round him and infants flew and landed to sit on his shoulder. He radiated a bright glow. He then called her but she refuse to look at him, and then he called my mother to look up, but again refused. He then asked why does she not want to look at him. She told him that she was not worthy and that she was going to Hell. He then asked her who told you that? My mother refused, so he “OO I know, don’t worry I will take of that person” He gave her the option to stay with him or go back. Well the Lord gave my mother another 10 years.
So you see folks, don’t pass judgement for only God can do. I recall my mother received a call from a relative asking what was she suppose o do with her lesbian sister attending church. My mother did not judge, she told that relative “Let her continue going to church and pray for her”.
Well now my lesbian relative left that lifestyle, had she put up with people saying your going to Hell. I doubt she would change. I am proud that my mother showed unconditional Love and that is how it should be.
So be careful what you say to other for God is recording every word that is coming out of your tongue.
Kristen will learn in the afterlife for now let her give her opion. Remember in the last days churches will become cold, but let not your Heart be cold.
And how many other types of behavior do you feel the same way about? Or is this just a special feeling you have for homosexual behavior?
Would you say ‘let the outspoken pedophile continue to come to church’ or ‘let the person who is promoting bestiality openly continue to come to church’.
I am just wondering if you hold all corrupt forms of behavior in the same regard.
IMHO, few people forget about the concept of purgatory. I will admit that I am catholic, and it is primarily a Catholic thought, but I personally feel that most people don’t do something serious enough to merit truly being cut off from the glory of God forever, which is a really long time, even if someone did something wretched to someone in such a short life, however, purgatory does, at least to me, exist as something sensible from God.
Again, for someone who feels that someone is living the wrong life, whether it’s cohabitation, homosexuality, being a member of an incorrect faith, talking about hellfire is among the last things you should ever do, in any of those situations, IMO, people who wish to talk about hellfire need to realize that all of these people are far more, for the most part alienated than gain interest in changing their course. What’s even worse, in my view, is personally my own concern that playing around with talking about what’s really only God’s job.
>> I am against the act NOT the person. Folks be very very careful telling people they are going to Hell for you are not the judge.
Amen.
>> I may get flamed for this too.
Maybe so, but not by me: you have Holy Scripture on your side, and it’s very clear.
This of course does NOT meant that homosexual *behavior* is to be accepted without speaking out against it, or otherwise condoned; the scripture is *very* clear on that point, as well. And we are admonished in Scripture *not* to accept sin among us.
However, as you point out, it is *not* for any of us to judge the fate of anyone’s eternal soul. Even Jesus does not claim that role, although He could (Ref John 8:15,16); instead, He serves as an advocate for all of Christendom before the Father. I pray I will *never* sin by usurping the power of the Almighty by judging another in that regard. To be fair, I must pray for forgiveness, because I have in fact done just that on occasion, and it is very much *not* my role to do so.
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The Democrat party that your mother adhered to, is NOT the Democrat party of today. Most grew up believing the DEMS were for the working people. (unions drummed this into their heads).
If a person continues to live their life as a homosexual, they are already judged and on their way to hell. Hell is the destination of all who don’t repent of their sins. It isn’t being judgmental - just factual. Jesus had no problem calling people liars to their faces, or telling them they were taking people to hell with them.
So, while your mother was a saintly, loving person, if she didn’t warn others of their destiny, she didn’t really love them. Love is wanting others to escape the fiery depths of hell prepared for the devil and his angels. Not sitting by condoning everything others do in the name of love and acceptance. This is another heretical myth being perpetuated by today’s church.
Great post. God bless your mother.
The condemnation of homosexuals or of ANYONE does NOT bring them closer to the Lord. Every single FReeper probably has someone in their family with a disorder....alcohol, eating, neurosis, etc. Telling someone to “go and sin no more” doesn’t help anyone (not you in your witness nor the person you are purporting to change through condemnation...) Loving them, praying for them and being a Godly example does much more good.