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Glenn Beck's "pure personal truth," Part 1 [Real Mormonism]
RenewAmerica.com ^ | Sept. 6, 2011 | Marsha West

Posted on 09/06/2011 8:15:09 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: dila813
I don’t care,

HMMmmm...

621 posted on 09/07/2011 12:42:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Mamzelle
I'm defending Beck.

Against what?

622 posted on 09/07/2011 12:44:02 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dila813

This actually in agreement with what I told you, Jesus would have literally sat down with Glen Beck, washed his feet, and broke bread with him.

That was Jesus’s way.
_____________________________________________

No kid it wasnt

if you think it was give us the source...

Which you havent done up to now

The LORD Jesus Christ would have dusted His feet off against Beck for rejecting Him

Beck rejected the LORD Jesus several times...

the latest being when he rejected and mocked and spoke evilly of the Christians who came to Beck in Israel to tell him about Jesus and to warn him about his false religion Mormonism in obedience to God.....

Beck is in big trouble with God and those loving Christians were warning him but he spurned them and mocked them..

“But everyone who denies me here on earth, I will also deny before my Father in Heaven.” Matthew 10:33


623 posted on 09/07/2011 12:45:24 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Mamzelle
"Whence cometh your salvation?"

And I got some very good answers.

I'll bet.

Here is what a powerful leader of the Salt Lake MORMONs has said:



In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.


1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)


624 posted on 09/07/2011 12:47:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Mamzelle
Maybe a lot of this hostility is jealousy? They've clearly been blessed, hasn't your church been?

 

MORMON
ATTITUDES OF SUPERIORITY
 

  1. I’m Superior; I have a special gift of the holy Ghost -- you don’t!
  2. I’m Superior; I have God’s true priesthood power -- you don’t!
  3. I’m Superior; I can go in God’s secret Temple -- you can’t!
  4. I’m Superior; I’ve been Endowed with special Gifts and Knowledge -- you’re just normal!
  5. I’m Superior; I’ll have my family with me in heaven -- you’ll be with strangers!
  6. I’m Superior; I’m becoming a God -- you aren’t!
  7. I’m Superior; My women know their place as servants of man and yours don’t.
  8. I’m Superior; YOUR creeds are wrong because they come from man - mine comes from God (you can find each one printed in our Scriptures).
  9. I’m Superior; I don’t HAVE a creed - I’ve got 13 Articles of Faith.
10. I'm Superior; I have 4 "Bibles"-- the standard works (5 if you count the JST) -- you've only got one: in as far as it is translated correctly.
11. I’m Superior; I can lie with impunity about such things as church membership, church growth, church doctrine, church history, church influence, etc. —                           -- You can’t.
12. I’m Superior; I am right (everybody knows) when I say 'evangelical' Christians are lunatics -- 
                           -- You’re a hideous narrow-minded bigot, who is persecuting me by practicing discrimination by saying I'm not a Christian.
13. I'm Superior; I have a testimony about a prophet -- you don't.
14. I'm Superior; I have a Scripture-producing Amos 3:7 prophet -- you don't
15. I’m Superior; I have a Living Prophet who talks to god every day -- you have a dim-witted hireling of Satan who only talks to himself.
16. I'm Superior; I have my calling & election made sure -- you don't.
17. I’m Superior; I have magic underwear to protect me from the bogey man -- you don’t.
18. I’m Superior; I have secret clasps and grips to give the angel so I get admitted to the celestial kingdom -- you don’t ;so you can’t.
19. I'm Superior; I know secret handshake codes for afterlife entrances-- you don't.
20. I’m Superior; I will see Joseph Smith setting on the right hand of GOD, when I get to Mormon heaven, and he will recognize me and judge me favorably                              -- You’re on your own; when you get to wherever you’re going!
21. I’m Superior; I’m going to hie to Kolob -- you’re going to who knows where.
22. I’m Superior; I get to have a harem and act like a celestial stud for time and all eternity -- you don’t.
23. I’m Superior; I have sun stones, moon stones, sky stones, cloud stones, Saturn stones, and the evil eye of Osirus guarding my temple
                            -- You have nothing but a stupid cross.
24. I’m Superior; My church has billions in assets stashed away -- yours has taken a stupid vow of poverty.
25. I'm Superior; Last - we have the power to keep a whole race out of our priesthood if we wanted to reinsert our 148-year legacy  (we ARE still keeping an entire GENDER at bay!)
26.  I'm superior; I have the "higher law" -- everyone else "lives under the "lesser law' because I say so...(over and over).
 
 
Revision 46.5
Semi-Official creed of the EXclusive club of Freeper Flying Inmans.
All rights liable to be abused.

625 posted on 09/07/2011 12:48:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I really don’t think we are talking about the same Jesus Christ.

If Jesus Christ appeared in Israel, you would have quite a shock when you saw him dine with Glen instead of you.

You don’t know Jesus.


626 posted on 09/07/2011 12:49:36 PM PDT by dila813
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To: All
From the article: When it comes to fighting the culture war Mormons put their money where their mouth is, whereas a large number of evangelicals and Catholics are more prone to let sleeping dogs lie.

This was true of Prop 8 in CA -- and a previous proposition in CA along the same lines. The Mormons were great on those props in putting out info & gathering $. Beyond that, I see no evidence of Mormons putting more $ into the culture war than Evangelicals & Catholics.

In fact, in areas of abortion, Evangelicals & Catholics are light years ahead of Mormons in putting their $ where their mouth is.

In comparison, the official Mormon stance on abortion includes the exception if the Mormon god says it's "OK," then it's "OK." And how does a girl/woman find that out? She prays about it. And then if the answer is "yes," she goes and dismembers the little would-be Mormon one.

627 posted on 09/07/2011 12:49:55 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Mamzelle
They've clearly been blessed, hasn't your church been?

There are blessings, and there are Blessings...


Hebrews 11:35-38

...There were others who were tortured, refusing to be released so that they might gain an even better resurrection. Some faced jeers and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment. They were put to death by stoning; they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated — the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, living in caves and in holes in the ground.

628 posted on 09/07/2011 12:52:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dila813; Turtlepower
Are you just on this board so you can slam Glen Beck?

PLAY defense; Tortuga!

629 posted on 09/07/2011 12:53:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dila813; Turtlepower
PLAY defense; Tortuga!

After you quit beating your wife of course.

630 posted on 09/07/2011 12:54:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dila813
I want to be like Christ and not driven by emotion.GO for it!

John 2:15

King James Bible

And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;

631 posted on 09/07/2011 12:56:24 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Tennessee Nana

WOW JUST WOW to #626. I am tired of people saying they are not mormon and then defending them to the hilt, we can tell because their jesus needs help as he is to weak to accomplish anything on his own. If you are a mormon own up to it, oh wait it is ok for them to lie or mislead or omit or whatever is necessary to not reveal the truth of mormonISM.
I can’t wait for our tea party.


632 posted on 09/07/2011 12:57:15 PM PDT by svcw (iphone 5 release date late October - rats)
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To: dila813

To act like a NOOB?


633 posted on 09/07/2011 12:58:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dila813
Ok, is this a personal attack by the Board’s definition?

Is the above question a misdirection because you cannot defend YOUR behavior here?

634 posted on 09/07/2011 12:59:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dila813

This actually in agreement with what I told you, Jesus would have literally sat down with Glen Beck, washed his feet, and broke bread with him.

That was Jesus’s way.
_____________________________________________

No kid it wasnt

if you think it was give us the source...

Which you havent done up to now

The LORD Jesus Christ would have dusted His feet off against Beck for rejecting Him

The LORD Jesus said,”if any place refuses to welcome you or listen to you, shake its dust from your feet as you leave to show that you have abandoned those people to their fate.” Mark 6:11

If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of him. Do not associate with him, in order that he may feel ashamed. 2 Thessalonians 3:14

Beck rejected the LORD Jesus several times...

the latest being when he rejected and mocked and spoke evilly of the Christians who came to Beck in Israel to tell him about Jesus and to warn him about his false religion Mormonism in obedience to God.....

Beck is in big trouble with God and those loving Christians were warning him but he spurned them and mocked them..

“But everyone who denies me here on earth, I will also deny before my Father in Heaven.” Matthew 10:33

If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.

Remember the words I spoke to you: ‘No servant is greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. They will do all this to you because of me, for they have rejected the one who sent me.

If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin. Now, however, they have no excuse for their sin. John 15:22

He who hates me hates my Father as well. John 15:18-23


635 posted on 09/07/2011 1:00:06 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: dila813
Jesus wasn’t militant as you seem to think.

Is this question a personal judgement?

636 posted on 09/07/2011 1:00:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Mamzelle; svcw; Elsie; johngrace
They don't pray to Joseph Smith.

But they occasionally worship him. Whenever the hymn in their hymnbook, Praise to the Man, comes up.

"The Man" in this hymn's title isn't Jesus Christ; it's Joseph Smith.

Brigham Young is also on record saying that people need Joseph Smith's consent to enter heaven.

I've been watching Beck, and almost every day he told his audience to pray for our country. Who else did that?

Pray to which god?

So, if I identify a dead man -- say, a well-known righteous man like Elijah or John the Baptist. And I say, "the council of gods got together and they made Elijah or John the Baptist as the god of Planet earth."

And then if I get my own mike going out to millions and I advocate that people pray to Elijah or John the Baptist, you somehow think that's a good thing?

When Mormons mention their god, haven't you ever thought about how that needs a little bit of unpacking? That their god is a body of flesh-and-bones ex-man who got the god job of planet earth?

So you're indirectly claiming that I could pick any righteous dead man, advocate that the world pray to him, and that's a great thing to do? Than praying to any ole man-god is better than no call to pray at all?

637 posted on 09/07/2011 1:00:50 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: dila813

This actually in agreement with what I told you, Jesus would have literally sat down with Glen Beck, washed his feet, and broke bread with him.

That was Jesus’s way.
_____________________________________________

No kid

Jesus didnt wash the feet of those who were not His disciples..

Beck is not a disciple of The LORD Jesus Christ...

Beck is a disciple of Joey Smith...


638 posted on 09/07/2011 1:02:18 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: dila813

You ignored the issue completely...you questioned the sincerity of my Christian faith....you can’t back away from your statements in post 555. You didn’t just merely ask if I was a Christian, you stated in post 555 that you doubted I was a Christian.

What gives you the right to publicly doubt another person’s faith?


639 posted on 09/07/2011 1:11:11 PM PDT by Turtlepower
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To: Religion Moderator
All of you: it is time to return to the issues and drop the ad hominems.

We now return you
to your regular programming.

640 posted on 09/07/2011 1:12:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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