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To: Jvette; Quix; metmom; presently no screen name
Well, you quote one thing and then “prove” another.

Actually, no. Your claim was that the Roman Catholic Church teaches nothing other than Mary was a sinner in need of a Savior. My post disproved your claim; the RCC teaches Mary to be a co-redemptrix, a source of grace and other unbiblical falsehoods.

I showed proof, from your catechism, debunked by Scripture, that your claim is wrong. That's all.

Hoss

892 posted on 09/05/2011 5:53:08 PM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: HossB86

Sorry, you proved what the Church teaches about Mary after the Incarnation when she gives her fiat to the angel and agrees to be the mother of God, the second person of the Trinity, Jesus.

I said the church believes and teaches that Mary was in need of a Savior as we all are.

Mary was preserved from sin, saved from it by God at the moment of her conception so that she could bear within her body the Word Incarnate, Jesus.

Through her consent, Jesus, the Savior, the Redeemer, the Mediator was born and we are able to have eternal life.

Two different things. You quoted me, then set about to prove something completely different from the quote.

Clear now?


898 posted on 09/05/2011 6:06:22 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: HossB86

“Actually, no. Your claim was that the Roman Catholic Church teaches nothing other than Mary was a sinner in need of a Savior. My post disproved your claim; the RCC teaches Mary to be a co-redemptrix, a source of grace and other unbiblical falsehoods. “

Where in those quotes does it say that Mary is a source of grace? Mary is a conduit of grace, just as Scriptures are and the Apostles were and the Church is. The grace is from God through Jesus imparted to us in baptism.

The church teaches that grace comes from God and no one and nothing else.


915 posted on 09/05/2011 6:41:18 PM PDT by Jvette
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