[Jvette]

“Actually, no. Your claim was that the Roman Catholic Church teaches nothing other than Mary was a sinner in need of a Savior. My post disproved your claim; the RCC teaches Mary to be a co-redemptrix, a source of grace and other unbiblical falsehoods. “

Where in those quotes does it say that Mary is a source of grace? Mary is a conduit of grace, just as Scriptures are and the Apostles were and the Church is. The grace is from God through Jesus imparted to us in baptism.

The church teaches that grace comes from God and no one and nothing else.

[Mad Dawg]

To be scrupulously fair, I can see that sometimes (a) what we say COULD SEEM to present Mary as a source of all grace. it6 helps to have and to 'cleave to' a rigorous conceptof parenthood. A mother is in some sense source, but of something that is only half hers. We can think of the faucet as the source of water, but we also remember that the water came from something even 'behind and prior to' the well.

It is in that sense, or something like it, that Mary is a source.

(b) Occasionally some writers, de Montfort (whom I simply LOVE) among them, will go clear over the top, and if it weren't for other assurances of their orthodoxy, one could think they were mariolaters.

Our non- and anti- Catholics brethren come into the discussion sure we are unorthodox, and they see texts which seem safe if enthusiastic to us and draw conclusions from which, if they had drunk deep of the Pierian Spring, their sober consideration would protect them.

(My syntax IS involved when I write in my sleep.)