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To: HossB86

Well, you quote one thing and then “prove” another.

Mary needed a savior and her Savior is Jesus.

What you have quoted are attributes of Mary which come to her through the FULLNESS of her GRACE which she received from Jesus, just as we do.

Again and again and again I explain that Mary would not be any of those things without her Son. The Catholic church does not say that she is EQUAL or ABOVE the Trinity.

Nothing in that passage says otherwise. Is the gift of salvation Jesus? Then she did indeed bear the gift of salvation to the world.

And if one truly reads what is written in official doctrine of the Church, one will see that Mary always draws her spiritual children to her Son.

Protestants do not see her that way, and I have never vilified or condemned one for lacking that devotion. The same cannot be said for protestants toward me and my belief.

Vilify me if you will, but at least do it for my real beliefs and not the warped presentations of it made here.


801 posted on 09/05/2011 3:07:08 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: Jvette; HossB86
Vilify me if you will, but at least do it for my real beliefs and not the warped presentations of it made here.

To judge by the Religion Forum on FR, attacking what one opponent actually says and thinks is very difficult, so difficult that few attempt it.

830 posted on 09/05/2011 3:54:58 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Jvette; Quix; metmom; presently no screen name
Well, you quote one thing and then “prove” another.

Actually, no. Your claim was that the Roman Catholic Church teaches nothing other than Mary was a sinner in need of a Savior. My post disproved your claim; the RCC teaches Mary to be a co-redemptrix, a source of grace and other unbiblical falsehoods.

I showed proof, from your catechism, debunked by Scripture, that your claim is wrong. That's all.

Hoss

892 posted on 09/05/2011 5:53:08 PM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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