[Judith Anne]

Two wrongs may not make a right, but the first wrong never seems to get the moderator hammer, does it?

Catholics worship Mary. (Wrong#1)

Ptotestants worship Paul. (Wrong #2)

There are two wrongs for you, neither one makes a “right.” But the first wrong, a lie, starts the flames. I know you don’t intervene in doctrine, but my goodness, how many times do people in one church have to say something is a lie before the other church stops lying?

It’s a lie, it’s a lie, it’s a freaking lie, how about the “Mary-Ishtar goddess cult” lie. How many times do we have to read THAT inflammatory post before somebody calls a halt to wrong #1? We might get somewhere on this forum if there were limits set on some of the worst.

Not that I particularly care how stupid the opposition makes itself look. But good grief!

[Avalon Hussar]

It’s a lie, it’s a lie, it’s a freaking lie, how about the “Mary-Ishtar goddess cult” lie. How many times do we have to read THAT inflammatory post before somebody calls a halt to wrong #1? We might get somewhere on this forum if there were limits set on some of the worst.

Judith, here's the problem. We don't have a problem saying that Mary was highly blessed and should be revered most among all women, that much is Biblically sound. Where we have a problem is when Mary is elevated to the post of Co-Redeemer with Christ. That is where the problem occurs and that's what Protestants have been complaining about now for 600+ years.

We have no problem saying that Mary is to be praised for her faithfulness to God, we have a problem when she's attributed Redeemer status. That title belongs to Christ alone and that's where our complaints come from, including the "Mary-Ishtar goddess cult" rub that you mentioned earlier.

It's a legitimate complaint, it's not a lie.

[Religion Moderator]

Neither statement gets the moderator hammer.

False claims, ridicule, spitwads and so on are to be expected in the town square format of "open" Religion Forum threads.

[Quix]

As though Proddys haven't read similar assaults and worse from RC's for the whole of FR's existence.

The outrage seems to get most shrill when they feel their monopoly on fiercely emotional, strident pronouncements is slipping away.

We all know they love their !!!!CONTROL!!!! mechanisms passionately . . . perhaps even idolatrously.

And no, the "Vatican Ishtar-Mary Goddess cult" is the best, MOST ACCURATE TO REALITY description of what's OBSERVED that I can come up with. If I could come up with a better one, I'd use the better, MORE accurate one.

Theologically, I think the Vatican Ishtar-Mary Goddess cult is like the gal in blue below . . . they took a very wrong turn early on.