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To: Not gonna take it anymore; boatbums; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; caww; ...
Wow, you left the Eucharist. It truly boggles my mind. Please understand, I am not being unkind here. I am just amazed. That is something I have searched for all of my life and finally found and you and metmom gave it up.

It kind of depends on whether you see communion as the Eucharist, the actual, physical consuming of the body and blood of Christ and that it's necessary for salvation....

or not....

I see both baptism and communion as physical representations of spiritual realities, instituted for us because we humans need to have stuff kept before us and it's a great word picture reminding us of what we have experienced spiritually.

I (and I think bb and others) do not believe that these physical ceremonies CAUSE the spiritual reality to happen. The spiritual reality is a done deal. These show to the world what they are in terms that people can understand. We were commanded by Christ Himself to take communion *in remembrance* of Him and show His death until He comes- a word picture conveying both His first and second coming.

3,844 posted on 09/17/2011 6:30:12 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

Just a reminder: there’s an important difference between “physical” and “real.”


3,847 posted on 09/17/2011 6:35:28 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore; metmom; caww

This is another instance of people saying the Catholic Church’s teaching is something other than what it is.

I think, CAWW, that there is a kind of “prejudice without malice aforethought. We do NOT have the nerve to think we can CAUSE the sacramental presence as though we were magicians conjuring our familiar. Yet we can say “’Real’ not ‘physical’,” and so forth more than seven times a day and it will make no difference at all. Our testimony is considered tainted before we open our mouths.


3,851 posted on 09/17/2011 6:48:16 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Jesus, I trust in you.)
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