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To: aruanan
Geez, you're parsing this based on imagery to extricate yourself from a difficulty posed by the doctrine of a pre-trib rapture. You really should look at what the origin of parousia is. If you did, you wouldn't be engaged in this silly, "Oh, but he hasn't actually returned to the Earth because he didn't touch down" punt that has been around since at least the early 1970s. The parousia refers to the practice of people going out of town to meet the visiting ruler and accompanying him back into town for his visitation.

Obviously then, we and the scriptures are not discussing parousia...

Jesus is not coming to earth for visit at the Rapture...Your parousia does not apply...Jesus is not concerned with fulfilling a Jewish custom...

2,020 posted on 09/08/2011 1:32:55 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Iscool
Jesus is not coming to earth for visit at the Rapture...Your parousia does not apply...Jesus is not concerned with fulfilling a Jewish custom...

You really need to actually read the scriptures as well as study word origins. It was Paul talking about the parousia of Jesus in I and II Thessalonians.
2,047 posted on 09/08/2011 2:45:50 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Iscool; MarkBsnr
Jesus is not coming to earth for visit at the Rapture...Your parousia does not apply...Jesus is not concerned with fulfilling a Jewish custom...

Also, the catching up of believers to the returning Lord is an event that occurs on the Day of the Lord, aka the Second Coming of Jesus. It is something that takes place, according to Jesus in Matthew, after the period of great tribulation and after the angels are sent out through the earth to root out the sons (aka, the tares) of the evil one ("one shall be taken and one shall be left"--taken where? To judgement and death, according to Jesus in that same chapter) leaving the wheat (the believers, the sons of God) untouched and standing to be gathered to him from around the world afterwards.
2,051 posted on 09/08/2011 2:56:03 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Iscool; aruanan
Jesus is not coming to earth for visit at the Rapture...Your parousia does not apply...Jesus is not concerned with fulfilling a Jewish custom...

Oooh, so we have one antiCatholic that preaches that Jesus does not fulfill Jewish customs, allied with another who preaches that Jesus fulfills Jewish customs.

Nothing matters except antiCatholic hate, doesn't it?

2,103 posted on 09/08/2011 5:44:24 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move m to do so.)
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