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As for the "Mary Ishtar Worship" or whatever it is that Quix calls it, while I don't think that most Catholics intend that their adoration of Mary be viewed as worship,

If we don't intend it as worship, it isn't worship. I know when I am worshipping, don't you? Others can mistakenly view it as whatever they want, it doesn't make them right. It makes them offensive, and their utterances false. Your "worrying" -- as you called it in your post -- about something false, not happening, and ridiculous is fruitless "worry" and affects the state of our souls not at all.

That all explains your "worry" but not the hostility you mention in your last paragraph. Maybe you can get into that sometime. Because your hostility over your fruitless pointless "worry" over nothing is just evil.

If we don't intend it as worship, it isn't worship. I know when I am worshipping, don't you? Others can mistakenly view it as whatever they want, it doesn't make them right. It makes them offensive, and their utterances false. Your "worrying" -- as you called it in your post -- about something false, not happening, and ridiculous is fruitless "worry" and affects the state of our souls not at all. That all explains your "worry" but not the hostility you mention in your last paragraph. Maybe you can get into that sometime. Because your hostility over your fruitless pointless "worry" over nothing is just evil.

Judith, let me ask you this. If something walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and has feathers like a duck, does it matter if you intend it to be a chicken or not? Like I said, I know that most Catholics would never knowingly worship anyone other than God, but look at what is being said here. Mary is Co-Redemptrix!?! That means she had a part in the Redemption of Man. I know you don't believe that she died for our sins, so why would you believe that she helps redeem us? Yes, she brought Christ into the world. For that I'm grateful beyond belief, but it's not a part of our redemption. Do you understand what I'm trying to convey here? Mary is to be honored, but only Christ is our Redeemer.

If we don't intend it as worship, it isn't worship. I know when I am worshipping, don't you?

NOPE!

WRONG!

Humans self-label positively and negatively quite askew from reality all the time for a variety of conscious and unconscious reasons.

I suspect you saw that plenty inaccurate self and other labeling on the psych wards as well as in your normal social realtionships. It's a human tendency.

Or are you claiming to be the 2nd or 3rd (which is it?) IMMACULATE CONCEPTION?

I suspect you also saw plenty of DENIAL on such wards and in your normal social relationships.

And, the Chinese have an excellent point with their proverb that THE ONLOOKER SEES THE GAME BEST.

When it walks like a duck,
flies like a duck,
swims like a duck,
waddles like a duck,
lays eggs like a duck,
drops feathers like a duck,
smells like a duck,
. . .

Onlookers have a right--even an obligation in some contexts--to say it's probably to certainly a duck.

The behaviors confirming Proddys assessments in such matters are layers thick, quite shrill and intense; abundantly plentiful and relentless in their providing sky high piles of evidence.

DENIAL may be comforting in front of the mirror. It won't wash in front of God Almighty.