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To: Judith Anne
If we don't intend it as worship, it isn't worship. I know when I am worshipping, don't you? Others can mistakenly view it as whatever they want, it doesn't make them right. It makes them offensive, and their utterances false. Your "worrying" -- as you called it in your post -- about something false, not happening, and ridiculous is fruitless "worry" and affects the state of our souls not at all. That all explains your "worry" but not the hostility you mention in your last paragraph. Maybe you can get into that sometime. Because your hostility over your fruitless pointless "worry" over nothing is just evil.

Judith, let me ask you this. If something walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and has feathers like a duck, does it matter if you intend it to be a chicken or not? Like I said, I know that most Catholics would never knowingly worship anyone other than God, but look at what is being said here. Mary is Co-Redemptrix!?! That means she had a part in the Redemption of Man. I know you don't believe that she died for our sins, so why would you believe that she helps redeem us? Yes, she brought Christ into the world. For that I'm grateful beyond belief, but it's not a part of our redemption. Do you understand what I'm trying to convey here? Mary is to be honored, but only Christ is our Redeemer.

1,102 posted on 09/06/2011 9:38:54 AM PDT by Avalon Hussar
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To: Judith Anne
"If something walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and has feathers like a duck, does it matter if you intend it to be a chicken or not?"

If it walks like a zotted Freeper, quacks like a zotted Freeper, and posts like a zotted Freeper is it really a NOOB?

1,104 posted on 09/06/2011 9:44:07 AM PDT by Natural Law (For God so loved the world He did not send a book.)
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To: Avalon Hussar
Judith, let me ask you this. If something walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and has feathers like a duck, does it matter if you intend it to be a chicken or not? Like

The fact that you cannot tell the difference between veneration and ducks is NOT my problem. I know when I am worhipping, do YOU? How dare you tell me what I am doing! Honor, veneration, esteem, are all different from worship. And if you don't think so, that is not my problem. What is being said here is a lot of malarkey, if it is not the truth. And the truth is, you people can make all th mistakes you want, it doesn't translate to some sort of proof of worship on my part. God knows, I am content with that. What is YOUR problem?

1,105 posted on 09/06/2011 9:46:23 AM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Avalon Hussar; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
Exodus 20:4-6 says nothing about worshiping other gods, but it does explicitly state that people are not to BOW DOWN to carved images.

Exodus 20:4-6 4 "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 5 You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, 6but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.

I've seen plenty of Catholics bowing down before statues of Mary, Joseph and whoever else there was a statue of, lighting candles in front of them.

Obviously God knew the semantics games people would play and focused on the actions.

1,197 posted on 09/06/2011 12:15:14 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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