For you, Quixo:
Sorry, Bro, I can't let that slide.
That assertion constitutes a horrific RC double standard.
What's good for Benny Hinn is good for Montfort.
I personally think Benny Hinn is more than a little off the wall in a list of ways. Not only do some of his pronouncements strike me as horrifically unBiblical, some of his actions come across to me as arrogant and off the wall.
Yet, he purportedly believes Christ came in the flesh and the basic doctrines of the Christian faith. Further, it appears that GOD, HOLY SPIRIT has seemed to ignore some such [though He evidently took Benny to the woodshed for a period of time to some effect] and continued to work through Benny to the spiritual and healing benefit of thousands.
Whether, as some of us believe, God will eventually clean such folks clocks big time and/or remove them from ministry, remains to be seen.
It has always been God's habit to use very strange characters . . . and thereby to confound the "wise" in their own eyes with such questionable characters.
And, we have an old timer FREEPER who's been in Benny's church for a considerable period of time and affirms Benny's more or less authentic Christianity--at least for a period of time.
I shake my head and conclude that I'm thankful I'm not Benny's supervisor, God is. I'm not Benny's judge, God is.
Jesse DuPlantis is in a different category, to me. Jesse's a 1,000% more congruent with Scripture, with himself, with God's priorities etc. Whatever off the wall or SEEMINGLY off the wall assertions attributable to him come across to me as the more or less minor sorts of things flawed humans pontificate about from time to time.
In any case, their nonsensical, un/extra Biblical pontifications come across to me as wild haired conjectures. So what. Opinions are a Chinese fen [about a 1/10th or less of a penney] a thousand.
The wild haired assertions of MANY Rabid RC's hereon have been AT LEAST as off the wall and proffered as ABSOLUTE MAGICSTERICAL PROMULGATED TRUTH instead of their personal conjectures.
The stuff in Ferraro's Devotional should make any authentic Christian's hair curl it is sooooooo HIDEOUSLY UNBIBLICAL AND OUTRAGEOUSLY BRAZENLY IDOLATROUS. Labeling it merely "enthusiastic" is like labeling deliberately hellishly treasonous, demonized Shrillery and OThuga merely clumsy and slightly misguided.
It's like taking Montfort et al and their outrageously idolatrous assertions and labeling them inconsequential because they have jumped through all the organizational hoops otherwise. Or because they flatter the Magicsterical with compliance sufficiently to have the Magicsterical's favor. Or because they believe the same outrageously idolatrous hogwash from hell that the Magicsterical believes.
And THEN Rabid Clique RC's hereon have the unmitigated duplicitous, hypocritical, brazen gall to point the finger at even the likes of Benny Hinn???!!! Gimme a break.
Montfort, Ferraro et all are talking about a super key priority of GOD ALMIGHTY.
There's NO ROOM for conjecture or personal opinion on that score. IDOLATRY IS IDOLATRY. Whitewashing it does not wash it away in the least.
Dressing it up in Magicsterical weasel-worded double-speak doesn't change it a microgram's worth in God's eyes nor on the eternal ledger.
To swallow and PRACTICE such INSTITUTIONALLY PROFFERED, ENCOURAGED, REWARDED, PRAISED, EMBELLISHED AND BRAZEN idolatry AS CLEARLY A SHOCKING NUMBER ON FR DEFINITELY DO
AND THEN
to throw rocks at nonsense from the likes of Benny Hinn is beyond hypocritically idiotic. It is virulent duplicity of the worst sort.
At least with Benny Hinn, many Pentecostals call him to task and note to their flock to watch out for his obvious flaws.
On the RC side, it's circle the wagons and defend BRAZENLY DEMONIC IDOLATRY AS KOSHER--EVEN REQUIRED RC DOGMA. And y'all think God is amused? I've got news for you. He's !NOT!
Nice. Jesse is true to scripture when he says You, not God, Decides When to Die
“I’m going to say something that will knock your lights off. Go has the power to take life, but He can’t. He’s got the power to do it, but He won’t. He’s bound; He can’t. He says, “Death and life is in the power of” who’s tongue? Yours. You ready for this? You want something that’ll knock your lights off? You choose when you live; you choose when you die. Death and life is in the power of your tongue, not God’s.
cool, so Quix, your group says Jesse is true to scripture, eh?
Nice. So, I guess according to your wacko group, QUixos Jesse is true to scripture when he says
"As I stepped out of the chariot, everything I saw was so beautiful. I had always thought that when I went to heaven I would see only a city. But the first place I saw was Paradise; it hadn't been destroyed. Paradise is a big place, completely surrounding the Holy City. It is like being on another planet."This was before Jesse comforted God and found out that scripture was not inspired on the same day he took the highway to hI saw Elohim, Jehovah God, Yahweh sitting on the Throne! But I saw His feet - only His feet. . . He is so big - you can’t describe Him in a dimension. His hand is huge! His body, the form of it, is sort of like energy, spirit. There’s a wall around the Throne, but the Throne is higher than the wall - that’s why you can see the Throne from every direction, from a distance. And that power, that energy-like smoke of God, covers all around the chair of the Throne itself."
"There was a cloud that looked like smoke going up from the Throne and I heard that massive sound, "whoosh! It was power like I’ve never experienced in my life. Then I saw God’s finger barely move and when it moved, an angel that was flying near Him was thrown up against a wall. Bam! It didn’t hurt the angel."
then Jesus starts to say how He is dreading the day when He has to send some of His creation to hell, so Jesse comes to Jesus's rescue! "I wanted to reach out and comfort Him, so I put my hand on the Lord. . .I could tell that Jesus was hurting."
"I didn’t know before how much He needed me to reach out to other people. I have always thought of how much I needed Him, not how much He needs me. . .He smiled at me and said, "I chose you. No one else wanted you, and I need you Jesse.
In your posts, yet we find none.
What is hilarious is that everyone sees your posts and realizes they contain as much sense as Obambi's speechs -- then whatever else you talk about, people realise that the opposite is true.
Avalon Hussar )post 529): I'll agree that Benny Hinn and Jesse DuPlantis are wrong to teach what they've been teaching,
Good for you, Avalon.
For you, Quixo:
I haven’t attacked (nor have I studied) those other guys. SO I can’t evaluate what you’re saying.