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To: boatbums
I doubt any of us whom you casually call "Paulicians" hold to the same doctrines of this seventh century minority. Rather, it appears it is only a "spitwad" that gets launched whenever the epistles of Paul are used to straighten up misrepresentation of the Gospel.

You openly boast of many Paulician practices. For instance, you guys are iconoclasts, you prefer the letters of Paul, you reject the title of Mother of God, you detest the Eucharist and its sacramental nature, and so on.

So if I call you part Paulician, I would be correct.

1,019 posted on 09/06/2011 4:45:26 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move m to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
You openly boast of many Paulician practices. For instance, you guys are iconoclasts, you prefer the letters of Paul, you reject the title of Mother of God, you detest the Eucharist and its sacramental nature, and so on. So if I call you part Paulician, I would be correct.

Hey, call me anything but late for supper, as the saying goes.;o)

You use some pretty harsh words to define "us", yet the doctrines I hold to are hardly unique nor the sole domain of the Paulicians. Lots of people reject the worship of icons - the Jews particularly in obedience to the first commandment. I no more prefer the epistles of Paul than I do any other Scripture - ALL scripture is God-breathed. Strike two. I reject the title for Mary than states she is God's mother, but, again, I am not alone in that. In fact, many ECFs rejected that terminology. I do NOT "detest" the Eucharist, only the mistaken belief that a priest can change the very substance of bread and wine into physical flesh and blood rather than a spiritual recognition. I also reject the doctrine that regular receiving of the Eucharist is critical to the infusion of grace necessary for salvation. I believe we receive Jesus Christ as our "bread of life" and his blood as the "propitiation" for our sins when we believe in him and trust in his sacrifice for our sins. When we observe the Lord's Supper, we are doing so in remembrance of him. Strike three. OOPS.

You can certainly call me whatever you choose, yet those who know what that term really means will not be fooled by false invectives.

1,273 posted on 09/06/2011 3:38:06 PM PDT by boatbums ( God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: MarkBsnr; boatbums
For instance, you guys are iconoclasts, you prefer the letters of Paul, you reject the title of Mother of God, you detest the Eucharist and its sacramental nature, and so on.

Except for the complicating factor that the term *Mother of God* is found NOWHERE in Scripture, even from Jesus Himself.

Best He called Him mother was *woman*.

Besides, words mean things. Saying the mother of God says that God had a mother. The more precise term is that Mary was the mother of Christ.

1,279 posted on 09/06/2011 4:00:13 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: MarkBsnr
So if I call you part Paulician, I would be correct.

And if you called us Bible Believing Christians, you'd be even more correct...

1,500 posted on 09/07/2011 5:57:52 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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