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To: MarkBsnr
You openly boast of many Paulician practices. For instance, you guys are iconoclasts, you prefer the letters of Paul, you reject the title of Mother of God, you detest the Eucharist and its sacramental nature, and so on. So if I call you part Paulician, I would be correct.

Hey, call me anything but late for supper, as the saying goes.;o)

You use some pretty harsh words to define "us", yet the doctrines I hold to are hardly unique nor the sole domain of the Paulicians. Lots of people reject the worship of icons - the Jews particularly in obedience to the first commandment. I no more prefer the epistles of Paul than I do any other Scripture - ALL scripture is God-breathed. Strike two. I reject the title for Mary than states she is God's mother, but, again, I am not alone in that. In fact, many ECFs rejected that terminology. I do NOT "detest" the Eucharist, only the mistaken belief that a priest can change the very substance of bread and wine into physical flesh and blood rather than a spiritual recognition. I also reject the doctrine that regular receiving of the Eucharist is critical to the infusion of grace necessary for salvation. I believe we receive Jesus Christ as our "bread of life" and his blood as the "propitiation" for our sins when we believe in him and trust in his sacrifice for our sins. When we observe the Lord's Supper, we are doing so in remembrance of him. Strike three. OOPS.

You can certainly call me whatever you choose, yet those who know what that term really means will not be fooled by false invectives.

1,273 posted on 09/06/2011 3:38:06 PM PDT by boatbums ( God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; caww; count-your-change; ...
You use some pretty harsh words to define "us", yet the doctrines I hold to are hardly unique nor the sole domain of the Paulicians. Lots of people reject the worship of icons - the Jews particularly in obedience to the first commandment. I no more prefer the epistles of Paul than I do any other Scripture - ALL scripture is God-breathed. Strike two. I reject the title for Mary than states she is God's mother, but, again, I am not alone in that. In fact, many ECFs rejected that terminology. I do NOT "detest" the Eucharist, only the mistaken belief that a priest can change the very substance of bread and wine into physical flesh and blood rather than a spiritual recognition. I also reject the doctrine that regular receiving of the Eucharist is critical to the infusion of grace necessary for salvation. I believe we receive Jesus Christ as our "bread of life" and his blood as the "propitiation" for our sins when we believe in him and trust in his sacrifice for our sins. When we observe the Lord's Supper, we are doing so in remembrance of him. Strike three. OOPS.

You can certainly call me whatever you choose, yet those who know what that term really means will not be fooled by false invectives.

You speak for me as well.

1,280 posted on 09/06/2011 4:02:56 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: boatbums
You use some pretty harsh words to define "us", yet the doctrines I hold to are hardly unique nor the sole domain of the Paulicians.

Hardly harsh; and I will remind you of the braggadocio of many here who proclaimed that and more. It is not Christian as defined by the Councils.

Lots of people reject the worship of icons - the Jews particularly in obedience to the first commandment.

Ah, ah, ah. Iconoclasm is not the rejection of the worship of icons. It is the rejection of icons. The first icon was written by St. Luke - Gospel writer and the writer of Acts. Did he fall into apostacy around the time he wrote Scripture? For 10 points, I will ask you who the subject is.

I no more prefer the epistles of Paul than I do any other Scripture - ALL scripture is God-breathed.

I'd check your Scriptural quotations and see if that holds true.

reject the title for Mary than states she is God's mother, but, again, I am not alone in that. In fact, many ECFs rejected that terminology.

Doesn't matter. The Church declared and as such as Kolokotronis (a far better Catholic than I'll ever be) are dedicated to the Theotokos. Unless you are willing to don the mantle that I regularly accuse the antiCatholics of - the creation of doctrine at whim.

I do NOT "detest" the Eucharist, only the mistaken belief that a priest can change the very substance of bread and wine into physical flesh and blood rather than a spiritual recognition.

Umm, that is a rejection. And, by the way, it is not the priest; it is the Holy Spirit. Will I never be able to educate you on this?

You can certainly call me whatever you choose, yet those who know what that term really means will not be fooled by false invectives.

bb, you know that I love you like a prickly antagonist that I grudgingly approve of, but exactly none of these are false. They are true and accurate according to the Councils of the Church. For those which are not, please, educate me. As I have shown, I welcome it.

1,313 posted on 09/06/2011 5:54:31 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move m to do so.)
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