.
THEN OBVIOUSLY,
That reply was a figment
of Proddy's imaginations.
Given that we are so used to
the RC denials about their
Ishtar-Mary Goddess figure,
I'm sure all the Proddys are greatly in awe
of yet more RC denials.
Posted on 09/02/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by marshmallow
Minneapolis, Minnesota (CNN) –Prior to 2006, few people even knew that then-Minnesota state legislator Keith Ellison was a Muslim. Because of his English name, he said, no one thought to ask.
But five years ago, when he ran for a seat in the United States House of Representatives - a race he would go on to win - word of his religious affiliation began to spread.
“When I started running for Congress it actually took me by surprise that so many people were fascinated with me being the first Muslim in Congress,” said Ellison, a Democrat now serving his third term in the House.
“But someone said to me, ‘Look Keith, think of a person of Japanese origin running for Congress six years after Pearl Harbor–this might be a news story.’”
Though Ellison's status as the first Muslim elected to Congress is widely known, fewer are aware that he was born into a Catholic family in Detroit and was brought up attending Catholic schools.
But he said he was never comfortable with that faith.
“I just felt it was ritual and dogma,” Ellison said. “Of course, that’s not the reality of Catholicism, but it’s the reality I lived. So I just kind of lost interest and stopped going to Mass unless I was required to.”
It wasn’t until he was a student at Wayne State University in Detroit when Ellison began, “looking for other things.”
(Excerpt) Read more at religion.blogs.cnn.com ...
Scripture makes it clear that one can KNOW that one is saved. The whole gospel of John is about how we can have eternal life by BELIEVING and that we can be sure of it.
There is no mention of churches or sacraments, or rituals, or prayers for departed souls.
It's all about Jesus. Only Jesus. All the rest is fluff.
If someone doesn't know anything else but Jesus, that person will still be saved, with no begging and hoping to get in before it's too late.
John 3:14-17 14And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. 16"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
John 5:24 24Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.
John 6:63 63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.
John 6:37 37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.
John 10:1-4 1"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber. 2But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice.
John 10:7-10 7So Jesus again said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8All who came before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. 9I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture. 10The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly.
John 10:27-29 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.
Your church may not have much power, and could very well be useless in the circumstance of extremity.
Bangs head on desk.
No church has ANY power to save. It's JESUS who saves, not the church.
Will I pray on my death bed? Maybe, if I have the opportunity, but not to ask for the salvation that I already know is mine, but in praise for the salvation that is already mine.
Are you sure you're going to heaven?
You did, I did not. Receiving assurance at an agonal time is a work of mercy. You may regard it as superfluous, and if so, send eveyrone away and die alone.
Just the lofty IN-GROUP perch of so many RC’s.
Oh good grief.
That’s a pretty generic sentence or two.
It’s perfectly plausible that smvoice saw it only in the Bible study guide/commentary they’re using.
But nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
The all-seeing eye of the Ishtar-Mary Goddess cult knows better and has sentenced smvoice to
!!!!GUILTY!!!! by RC assumption.
Which is obviously assumed to be akin to godliness. They just won’t own what ‘god.’
I think what most people skip over is: It’s not the relgious instution that saves but the person of Jesus, God’s Son, who came to this Earth and died for our sins on the cross then rose from the dead. Jesus is our salvation. It is believing in him and repenting of our sin that gives us everlasting eternal life.
Thanks for standing up for us.
ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
PRAISE GOD.
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
Thanks for your kind words.
INDEED. INDEED.
Yes.
It is apparent that you know nothing of Catholicism or Islam (hint, Calvinism is pretty much re-branded Islam). Islam is not a Trinitarian faith, because the Abrahamic Covenant from which it mutated is not Trinitarian.
(And for the record I really don't want to hear your polytheistic nonsense again either. As a Catholic I am a monotheist and do not acknowledge the existence or even the possibility of existence of any other God than Jehovah.)
Evangelicals versus [Roman] [Roman] Catholics, from various formal studies, spanning 1992 to 2009 (see sources http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/RevealingStatistics.html#Sec4 ).
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• • • • 56% of Assemblies of God (versus • • 17% [Roman] Catholics) • • Christians strongly DISAGREE that Satan is just a symbol of evil [rather than a real being]. •
• • • • Bible Reading: the highest was 75%, by those going to a Pentecostal/Foursquare church who reported they had read the Bible during the past week (besides at church), while • • • the lowest was among [Roman] Catholics at 23. •
• • • • Volunteer church work (during past 7 days): Assemblies of God were highest at 30%, with • • • the lowest going to [Roman] Catholics at 12%. •
• • • • • Donating Money (during the last month): Church of Christ churches were the highest at 29%, with • • • Catholics being the lowest at 12% •
• • • • • American evangelicals gave four times as much, per person, to churches as did all other church donors in 2001. 88 percent of evangelicals and 73 percent of all Protestants donated to churches. •
• • • • • By denomination, 61% of the those associated with an Assemblies of God church said they had shared their faith at least once during the past year, followed by 61% of those who attend a Pentecostal/Foursquare church, and ending 14% among Episcopalians and • • • just 10% among Roman Catholics •
• • • • • 25% of Evangelical Christians read the Bible on a daily basis along with 20% of other Protestants. • • • Just 7% of [Roman] Catholics • • • • • do the same. At the other extreme, • • • 44% of [Roman] Catholics rarely or never read the Bible • • • • • along with only 7% of Evangelical Christians and 13% of other Protestants. •
• • • • • 91% of Evangelical Christians and 63% of other Protestants and • • • 25% of [Roman] Catholics • • • • • consider themselves to be born again, . . . •
• • • • • 44% of Evangelical Christians reflect at least daily on the meaning of Scripture in their lives. 36% of other Protestants and • • • 22% of [Roman] Catholics • • • • • do the same. •
• • • • • 52% of Evangelical Christians have had a meaningful discussion about their faith with a non-Christian during the past month. 28% of other Protestants and • • • 18% of [Roman] Catholics • • • • • also have held such a discussion. •
• • • • • 68% of Evangelical Christians attend a regular Bible Study or participate in some other small-group activity. 47% of other Protestants take part in small groups related to their faith, along with • • • 24% of [Roman] Catholics. •
• • • 39 percent of [Roman] Catholics • • • • • affirmed not attending church is a sin, versus 23 percent of Protestants. •
• • • • • Weekly Church attendance: Evangelicals showed the highest participation of approx 60 percent (30% more than once a week).
• • • Catholics were at 45 percent (9% more than once a week), • • • • • and Jews 15 percent. •
• • • • • The highest percentage of those who strongly agree they have a personal responsibility to share their faith was found among believers in Pentecostal/Foursquare churches (73%) •
• • • • • 81% of Pentecostal/Foursquare believers strongly agree that the Bible is totally accurate in all that it teaches , followed by 77% of Assemblies of God believers, and ending with • • • 26% of [Roman] Catholics • • • • • and 22% of Episcopalians. •
• • • 54% of Hispanic [Roman] Catholics describe themselves as charismatic Christians. • • • • • 51%of Hispanic Evangelicals are converts, and • • • 43% are former [Roman] Catholics. • • • • • 82% of Hispanics cite the desire for a more direct, personal experience with God as the main reason for adopting a new faith. Among those who have become evangelicals, 90% say it was a spiritual search for a more direct, personal experience with God was the main reason that drove their conversion. Negative views of [Roman] Catholicism do not appear to be a major reason for their conversion. •
• • • • • Latino Evangelicals are 50% more likely than those who are [Roman] Catholics to identify with the Republican Party, and are significantly more conservative than [Roman] Catholics on social issues, foreign policy issues and even in their attitudes toward the plight of the poor. •
• • • 40% Roman Catholics • • • • • vs. 41% Non-R.C. see abortion as "morally acceptable";
• • Sex between unmarried couples: • • • 67% RC • • • • • vs. 57% Non-RC;
• • Baby out of wedlock: • • • 61% RC • • • • • vs. 52% Non-RC;
• • Homosexual relations: • • • 54% RC • • • • • vs. 45% Non-RC;
• • Gambling: • • • 72% RC • • • • • vs. 59% Non-RC. •
• • • • Committed Roman Catholics (church attendance weekly or almost) versus Non-R.C.: • Abortion: • • • 24% R.C. • • • • • vs. 19% Non-R.C.;
• • Sex between unmarried couples: • • • 53% RC • • • • • vs. 30% Non-RC;
• • Baby out of wedlock: • • • 48% RC • • • • • vs. 29% Non-RC;
• • Homosexual relations: • • • 44% RC • • • • • vs. 21% Non-RC;
• • • • • Gambling: • • • 67% RC • • • • • vs. 40% Non-RC;
• • Divorce: • • • 63% RC; • • • • • vs. 46% Non-RC;
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• • • • • Catholics broke with their Church's teachings more than most other groups, with • • • • just six out of 10 [Roman] Catholics affirming that God is "a person with whom people can have a relationship", and three in 10 describing God as an "impersonal force." •
• • • Only 33% of [Roman] Catholics strongly affirmed that Christ was sinless on earth • • • 88% of [Roman] Catholics • • • • • believe that they can practice artificial means of birth control and still be considered good [Roman] Catholics. • •
• • • 70 % of all [Roman] Catholics • • • • • in the age group 18 to 44 believe the Eucharist is a "symbolic reminder" of Jesus [it is, of His death], indicating they do not believe it is Jesus actual body and blood.
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• • • Only 30% of [Roman] Catholics • • • • • said believe they are really and truly receiving the body, blood, soul and divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ under the appearance of bread and wine.
You truly do not understand do you? Let me be very, very clear. I AM NEVER ALONE. Christ is with me constantly, the Holy Spirit guides me, and there are Angels around me at all times protecting me. I will not die alone because I don’t live alone. This is not my home, I am only passing through.
And I've seen the reaction by Catholics to non-Catholics on Catholic caucus threads and *screams of outrage* are definitely on the menu for the day.
Catholics can't legitimately pretend to be so innocent and injured in that regard. The martyrdom thing doesn't wear so well.
How desperate is that to get out an embarrassing situation the pope put himself in?
It was not in dispute when it happened. Only now, years later.
So you presume to read/know my heart/mind? But i am not obsessed with memorizing, though i wish i had done more, and you should want to also, as i am sure the Lord and His disciples did. It is and will be useful when do not have one to read. But neither do i think that itself makes one holy, but hiding it in your heart is a part of such. (Ps. 119)
It’s not that Catholics cannot do that, we have our Bible thumper types. We are just as free to read the Bible as you and MANY do read it daily. Why do you doubt we read Scripture as much as you?
For most of your history you were not allowed to as a lay person (hit the link). Rome does change. As for why i doubt they do read it much, comparatively speaking with evangelical types, the reason is that i was a Catholic, and became born again while yet going to Roman Catholic services weekly, and served as a lector and CCD teacher, and know the difference, while every survey i have read confirms that Roman Catholics and like institutionalized Prots marginalize it, and many Catholics themselves affirm they do not need to read the Bible.
.I have in front of me 3 Catholic Missals from the 1950’s and 60’s. They are crammed with Scripture readings. You are simply quoting anti-Catholic information you picked up somewhere.
I picked it from the Roman Catholic link and source provided, http://catholic-resources.org/Lectionary/Statistics.htm . Take it up with them. I think a Roman Catholic first posted it on FR, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2375781/posts
If you love your Bible, you are indebted for sure to the Catholic Church.
Without getting into arguing that, i am indebted to the Jews for most of it, and to King James for my favorite version, none of which renders them infallible interpreters of it.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Quix’s continual and obsessive hate fest against Catholics continues i see. Such a loving Christian Quix is.
I’m not so sure that the disappearance was all at once. You’ve been here much longer than me, but I can piece together some information from reading older threads and communicating with current freepers. From what I heard, one reason may be that a few Traditionalists “outed” a certain freeper who was pretending to be a Catholic deacon.
Now, Verdugo was a special case. He signed up relatively recently and after the “golden age” of Catholic-SSPX disputes. I believe he was zotted for posting a thread arguing that all unbaptized babies go to Hell. After the majority of Trad freepers were purged, it seems to me that Traditionalist ideas became too “extreme” for this site, and his zotting is just one example of that.
As for who presented the most resistance to Verdugo? It was the Catholics. For one thing, he claimed to be Catholic not Protestant, Orthodox, Jewish, or Hindu, so naturally Catholics had to be the most forceful in disagreement with him. Also, he tended to focus mainly on Catholic issues and debating other Catholics. It seems that most Traditionalists, including him, feel that Protestantism is ridiculous and not even worth their time.
Sources please.
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