Posted on 09/02/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by marshmallow
Minneapolis, Minnesota (CNN) –Prior to 2006, few people even knew that then-Minnesota state legislator Keith Ellison was a Muslim. Because of his English name, he said, no one thought to ask.
But five years ago, when he ran for a seat in the United States House of Representatives - a race he would go on to win - word of his religious affiliation began to spread.
“When I started running for Congress it actually took me by surprise that so many people were fascinated with me being the first Muslim in Congress,” said Ellison, a Democrat now serving his third term in the House.
“But someone said to me, ‘Look Keith, think of a person of Japanese origin running for Congress six years after Pearl Harbor–this might be a news story.’”
Though Ellison's status as the first Muslim elected to Congress is widely known, fewer are aware that he was born into a Catholic family in Detroit and was brought up attending Catholic schools.
But he said he was never comfortable with that faith.
“I just felt it was ritual and dogma,” Ellison said. “Of course, that’s not the reality of Catholicism, but it’s the reality I lived. So I just kind of lost interest and stopped going to Mass unless I was required to.”
It wasn’t until he was a student at Wayne State University in Detroit when Ellison began, “looking for other things.”
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When you comprise your own personal Magisterium, you are never wrong.
The same Catholic Christians who kept the faith for 2 millenium from Rome? With Peter as Pope? Exactly when did Peter move shop and set up headquarters in Rome? Do you have an approximate date?
So the repeated Scriptural exhortation that baptism is for the remission of sins is a lie? Interesting. Your cult's departure from Christianity would be fascinating to document.
Just curious. Where in Scripture does Paul talk about water baptism for remission of sins?
Just can’t do it without the invectives can you.
It doesn't lessen the accuracy. Look at this thread. Can you possibly contest the term?
Just curious again. When does Jesus talk about baptism for the remission of sins? When does Peter talk about baptism for the remission of sins? It’s a very important question. And one that may open your eyes. And don’t forget my earlier post: when did Paul talk about baptism for the remission of sins?
Why are you hung up on Rome?
Exactly when did Peter move shop and set up headquarters in Rome? Do you have an approximate date?
Very approximate. Does it matter to you? When did 2 Peter get written? When did the Comma Johanneum get written? When did the Trinitarian formula in Matthew 28 get written?
Sorry to disappoint:
Acts 2: 38Peter [said] to them, “Repent and be baptized,* every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the holy Spirit.u
Sorry to disappoint:
Acts 2: 38Peter [said] to them, “Repent and be baptized,* every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the holy Spirit.u
You said Paul talked about water baptism for the remission of sins. Yet you quoted Scripture where Peter was talking about it. Where did Paul talk about it?
Paul also said, “Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life” (Rom. 6:3–4).
This teaching—that baptism unites us with Christ’s death and resurrection so that we might die to sin and receive new life—is a key part of Paul’s theology. In Colossians 2:11–13, he tells us, “In [Christ] you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful nature, not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with the circumcision [of] Christ, having been buried with him in baptism and raised with him through your faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead. When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ” (NIV).
We are told that at Paul’s conversion, “he rose and was baptized, and took food and was strengthened. For several days he was with the disciples at Damascus” (Acts 9:18–19). This was a water baptism. In Romans 6 and Colossians 2, Paul reminds his readers of their water baptisms, and he neither says nor implies anything about some sort of “invisible spiritual baptism.”
Martin Luther wrote in his Short Catechism that baptism “works the forgiveness of sins, delivers from death and the devil, and grants eternal life to all who believe.” His recognition that the Bible teaches baptismal regeneration has been preserved by Lutherans and a few other Protestant denominations. Even some Baptists recognize that the biblical evidence demands the historic Christian teaching of baptismal regeneration. Notable individuals who recognized that Scripture teaches baptismal regeneration include Baptist theologians George R. Beasley-Murray and Dale Moody.
The anti-baptismal regeneration position is indefensible. It has no biblical basis whatsoever. So the answer to the question, “Are Catholics born again?” is yes! Since all Catholics have been baptized, all Catholics have been born again. Catholics should ask Protestants, “Are you born again—the way the Bible understands that concept?” If the Evangelical has not been properly water baptized, he has not been born again “the Bible way,” regardless of what he may think.
http://www.catholic.com/library/Are_Catholics_Born_Again.asp
"There is ONE BODY and ONE SPIRIT, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling. One Lord, One faith, ONE BAPTISM, One God and Father of all, who is above all and through all, and in you all." Eph. 4:4-6.
Which baptism do you think he is referring to here? The baptism by the Holy Spirit into the Body of Christ, or water? Because there cannot be two. There is ONE>
It sure as ell lessens my regard for your opinions and judgment. As I have said before. Anyone who has to use those tactics is obviously lacking in facts or support for their point of view. Trust me, it’s not just me.
You asked me about Peter. Why would I reply with Paul if you asked me about Peter?
At any rate:
Acts 9:18. Paul was water baptized.
Because it’s very important to know when Peter moved to Rome and set up shop. And yes, it matters to me. I don’t want to ASSUME that it was in 61-65 A.D., when 2 Peter was written. But I would rather ask someone who has a very approximate date than guess.
LOL, you truly don’t know do you? You have decided on YOPIOS and that’s it. Forget what the Bible teaches us because you have decided you are your own pope.
So what church do you go to? Is it a denomination we would recognize? Is it a mom and pop down the street? Does your church have a creed? What is it? Can you direct me to your church’s website?
What does your church believe and teach? What part of the Bible do you believe in? Is Paul your replacement of Jesus?
So many questions, will you answer these?.
I'm allegic to ermine. ;o)
Or, how about...let's not and say we did.
Go back and re-read the posts. Yes, Paul was water baptized in Acts 9. But I asked when Paul spoke of water baptism for the remission of sins? In any of his Epistles? Letters? And so we go on to Jesus. When did He speak of baptism for the remission of sins? Peter spoke of it in Acts 2.
LOL, I truly don’t know..WHAT?
Peter spoke of it so why do you deny it? Is Paul the only one you listen to and believe in? What happened to Christ? What church teaches that?
In the water-and-Spirit rebirth that takes place at baptism, the repentant sinner is transformed from a state of sin to the state of grace. Peter mentioned this transformation from sin to grace when he exhorted people to “be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit” (Acts 2:38).
http://www.catholic.com/library/Are_Catholics_Born_Again.asp
Acts 2:38
King James Version (KJV)
38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
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