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My Faith: Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), from Catholic to Muslim
CNN ^ | 9/1/11 | Chris Welch

Posted on 09/02/2011 9:07:47 AM PDT by marshmallow

Minneapolis, Minnesota (CNN) –Prior to 2006, few people even knew that then-Minnesota state legislator Keith Ellison was a Muslim. Because of his English name, he said, no one thought to ask.

But five years ago, when he ran for a seat in the United States House of Representatives - a race he would go on to win - word of his religious affiliation began to spread.

“When I started running for Congress it actually took me by surprise that so many people were fascinated with me being the first Muslim in Congress,” said Ellison, a Democrat now serving his third term in the House.

“But someone said to me, ‘Look Keith, think of a person of Japanese origin running for Congress six years after Pearl Harbor–this might be a news story.’”

Though Ellison's status as the first Muslim elected to Congress is widely known, fewer are aware that he was born into a Catholic family in Detroit and was brought up attending Catholic schools.

But he said he was never comfortable with that faith.

“I just felt it was ritual and dogma,” Ellison said. “Of course, that’s not the reality of Catholicism, but it’s the reality I lived. So I just kind of lost interest and stopped going to Mass unless I was required to.”

It wasn’t until he was a student at Wayne State University in Detroit when Ellison began, “looking for other things.”

(Excerpt) Read more at religion.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Islam; Theology
KEYWORDS: blackmuslims; islam; keithellison; muslim
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To: OpusatFR
Ignore it -- the devil works by trying to provoke. If you ask the loons about what they themselves believe in, they either will not tell you (a clear sign in itself) or if they DO tell you the crazy stuff they believe in (like aliens made robots in the form of angels and that they believe Jesus was an alien spaceman etc.), they will be open for ridicule. But discussing their beliefs is off the table for them.

These are not Christians, they have no intention in Christians discussing. They are not worth your rile

2,261 posted on 09/09/2011 5:56:25 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Cronos

Very true and very wise, Cronos.


2,262 posted on 09/09/2011 6:02:05 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Natural Law
It's about just under 200 km and about 3 1/2 hours from Istanbul by car.

I had a car like that...Took it to the junkyard...

2,263 posted on 09/09/2011 6:05:49 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: OpusatFR
Just experience. They have shown over the years that they are not interested in discussing, or preaching. All they have is their ability to be names in the cyberworld and they think they can insult people with impunity.

These are the losers in school who either bullied others and then grew up and realised that they were nobodies or the bullied kids who had no skills.

either way, they are sad, pathetic losers with no social or any skills -- they may claim to be psychologists but one wonders how desperate folks would be to go to them! Also, they strangely seem to not know anything about psychoanalysis.

They also have strong parental issues -- their parents were hurt that their kids rejected orthodox Lutheran theology for the wildness of aliens-among-us beliefs.

2,264 posted on 09/09/2011 6:07:00 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: marbren

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

BLESS YOU BRO.


2,265 posted on 09/09/2011 6:07:50 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Mad Dawg

Well put. I feel quite similarly.

I can better wrap my understanding around the notion that Christ would have us IDENTIFY WITH HIS SUFFERINGS in a more existential way.

I still have a hard time believing that HIS SUFFERING lacked anything.

One of those mysteries, imho.


2,266 posted on 09/09/2011 6:08:10 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Mad Dawg

LUB, BRO.

May Holy Spirit guide your every choice and action this day and weekend.

May those near lovingly support you in tangible, profoundly touching ways.

May His joys chase after you regardless of your tasks.


2,267 posted on 09/09/2011 6:08:18 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Mad Dawg

Profoundly, Biblically and well put.

Thx.


2,268 posted on 09/09/2011 6:08:35 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: metmom

Quite so. Quite so.

THx thx.


2,269 posted on 09/09/2011 6:09:11 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: OpusatFR

WRONG ON ALL COUNTS, YET AGAIN.

Those perspectives, each point,

come merely from looking closely and long at the EVIDENCE.

Thankfully, God knows my mind and my heart.

He also knows the evidence.

You’re assertions are simply grossly wrong.


2,270 posted on 09/09/2011 6:09:20 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Natural Law
Do you endorse or agree that Mary, the Mother of Jesus, should be linked with or referred to as a pagan temple prostitute? Because that is exactly who Ishtar is.

No...It's your queen of heaven who is Ishtar...The one you worship is not Mary, Jesus' Mother...

Your Ishtar was born sinless...Mary wasn't...Your Ishtar never had other children than the one son...Mary did have other children...Your Ishtar is the Mother of God...Mary is not and never will be...

You get the picture...

2,271 posted on 09/09/2011 6:16:46 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Cronos
Actually, none whatsoever, the UU is a gay-rights organization now. have you been to any?

Actually still waiting for you to tell me all about it. :-)

2,272 posted on 09/09/2011 6:24:41 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Cronos

There has been an increase in stories about Catholic homos the past few years and you seem to have a vast knowledge in this area. Thanx in advance for sharing. :-)


2,273 posted on 09/09/2011 6:27:52 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
oh, I told you already -- In Unitarian social clubs there is no Bible, no God, no Scripture, no nothing.

But there are all kinds of homosexual advocating brochures available along with every possible kind of anti-American literature you could think of.

2,274 posted on 09/09/2011 6:27:52 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Quix

Thank you for your generous prayers.

When Paul writes (as the RSV has it) “what is lacking in the sufferings of Christ,” my response is, “’What is lacking?’ You can’t be serious!”

I hear him say, “That’s the problem. I AM serious, too serious for words. I had to use words, so I used these wrong ones. Work with me and you’ll get it.”


2,275 posted on 09/09/2011 6:29:15 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (In my Father's trailer park are many double-wides. (apologies to Iscool))
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To: Quix; Alex Murphy

“You’re assertions are simply grossly wrong.”

GUFFAWWWW!

No they aren’t.

“merely from looking closely and long at the EVIDENCE”

You admited on a thread not too long ago that you never looked at Catholic theology and really didn’t know much about it.

I can find that statement.

Is it worth my time? Probably not. These threads are not about discussion anyway or the exchange of ideas.

They are simply the vehicles to display a preening ego to the “lurkers” in lieu of something worthwhile to do. The conceit of “missionary evangelizing” while sitting on ones rump in the den with that boss of coke is worthy of scorn.

*and I’d best be off my evangelizing rump and off to work


2,276 posted on 09/09/2011 6:30:17 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: OpusatFR; Alex Murphy

Sorry, dear. I’d written something with your name and deleted it in the post but neglected to delete the “To” name.


2,277 posted on 09/09/2011 6:31:38 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Nah, we're talking about Unitarian homos -- here you can read about it -- or go to your favorite club.

"When any commentator says religion is against gay marriage, it really rankles me," said the Rev. Jan Carlsson-Bull of the Unitarian Univeralist Congregation of the Catskills. UU ministers presided over hundreds of gay weddings in New Paltz in 2004 after Mayor Jason West was barred from doing so.

Nothing in the old or new testaments suggests to Carlsson-Bull that marriage must be between a man and a woman.

"(The Bible) is not a doctrine, but an anthology," she said. "It was put together by decisions that were political as well as religious."

you can go there yourself. Enjoy.

2,278 posted on 09/09/2011 6:33:28 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Or, you can check --> So, the biblical unitarians?!

Let's see, we have had these crazy statements from the leftist loons also known as the Unitarians:

gay rights activists: Geneva's Unitarian remains bastion of liberal ministry

Pamela Rumancik, 49, who’s openly lesbian, recently finished a year of training as a minister at Geneva’s Unitarian Universalist Church. Her role was assistant minister, leading services and performing weddings and memorial services.

Rumancik grew up Catholic and was always involved with the church.

“I couldn’t be a minister in the Catholic Church, but I could as a Unitarian,” she said.

..“As a Catholic, I was totally repressed so much,” Rumancik said. “I really didn’t notice (I was a lesbian) until I got older.”

What a bunch of loons! The Lesbian and Gay club is another name for the Unitarians! Biblical, yeah, right.... ;-P
2,279 posted on 09/09/2011 6:34:08 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

Since your posts also talk about how the NT is wrong, you should give them a visit, right?


2,280 posted on 09/09/2011 6:34:56 AM PDT by Cronos (www.forfiter.com)
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