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Is Jon Huntsman a Jack Mormon?
Get Religion ^ | 8/23/11 | Mark Hemingway

Posted on 08/23/2011 8:01:10 AM PDT by markomalley

I wondered back in March whether or not the fact that we had two Mormons running for President would create an “LDSapalooza” in the news coverage. It hasn’t quite worked out that way, in part because Jon Huntsman is polling just above Pat Paulsen. Even though Romney is the nominal frontrunner in the GOP primary his faith was quite heavily covered in 2008, and this time around the media seems far more interested in covering — or ginning up — the controversies surrounding Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann. I bet Romney’s pretty happy about that.

So I’m kind of surprised it’s taken this long to see an article, “GOP rivals have different takes on Mormon faith,” where the raison d’etre is explicitly comparing Romney and Huntsman’s approach to their Mormonism. (If there are any other articles that do this I missed, let me know in the comments.) It’s in Romney’s local paper the Boston Globe, but the focus is mostly on Huntsman.

Despite Huntsman’s failure to spark interest among actual voters, if the GOP primary were decided by East Coast magazine and newspaper editors the former Utah governor would win in a walk. Huntsman has been quite favorably covered by a number of news organs that are usually either hostile or GOP politicians, see for example this this Esquire profile. And Huntsman recently got a large and glowing feature in Vogue(!) of all places, replete with Annie Liebowitz photos. It was even written by Slate’s Jacob Weisberg, a journalist who wears his liberal credentials on his sleeve.

So then, what accounts for all of this media gushing over Huntsman, even though he’s been irrelevant to the actual election? It could be that the media is attracted to the fact that on a number of issues Huntsman has rather heterodox, even liberal, views for a Republican. And part of that same appeal is that, while other Republicans are eager to emphasize how fervently religious they are, Huntsman seems lukewarm about many of the cultural and doctrinaire aspects of Mormonism.

This is what the Globe piece focuses on:

But in public remarks they have drawn strikingly different religious self-portraits. Romney is highly active and orthodox - he was a top local lay leader in Massachusetts for years, and he has embraced his church unequivocally: “I believe in my Mormon faith and endeavor to live by it,’’ he said in a major speech in 2007.

Huntsman has called his adherence to Mormon practices “tough to define.’’ He has described himself as more spiritual than religious and as someone who gets “satisfaction from many different types of religions and philosophies.’’

As someone who was raised Mormon, I have to say that a self-professed Mormon saying they get satisfaction from other religions and philosophies is striking coming from a church body whose adherents routinely profess the belief they belong to “the one true church.” And this is just the tip of the iceberg — Huntsman’s sons didn’t go on missions (which isn’t a requirement of the church, but strongly encouraged), his wife plays up her Episcopalian background and they’re raising their foreign-born adopted daughters in their “native faiths, Hinduism and Buddhism.”

Now the Mormon church is very hierarchical and specific about many of its beliefs. While there is room for personal interpretation, there are limits to this as well. I’ve personally talked to several Mormons who are, at a minimum, less-than-enamored with how Huntsman is publicly representing his commitment to his faith.

But oddly, the Globe article by Lisa Wangsness, seems heavily weighted toward those that are very bullish on Huntsman’s heterodoxy:

“Normally it’s either all in or all out - that’s both how Mormons view themselves, and that’s how people view Mormons,’’ said John Dehlin, a Mormon from Logan, Utah, whose “Mormon Stories’’ podcast (mormonstories.org) has drawn a growing audience of nontraditional and ambivalent Mormons. “Liberals and progressive [Mormons] were elated at Huntsman’s characterizing himself that way, at least the ones I know, because it helps contribute to opening up the discourse about unorthodox Mormonism.’’

I also found it a bit strange the way Wangsness treats Huntsman’s at-times ambivalent relationship with the church as some sort of new or emerging movement within Mormonism:

Some of the questions gripping Dehlin’s audience are unremarkable in older faiths but still provocative in Mormon circles. In a strict church that asks much of its members, is it possible to be selectively observant, yet still a part of the community? Is there such a thing as a “cafeteria Mormon’’ - as some engaged in the debate have described a person who embraces some church teachings, but rejects others? Do some Mormons, like secular Jews, share cultural and genealogical bonds that remain intact even when religious beliefs fray?

For those of you that don’t live out West, let me explain the problem with this. Wangsness is writing an entire article about “Jack Mormons” without using the word Jack Mormon. It’s a pretty common term in the church, and Wikipedia tells me it dates all the way back to 1846. Basically, Jack Mormons are people that have cultural or family ties to the church, or maybe are even lapsed or half-hearted members who attend sporadically who maintain some positive feelings toward the church. So when Wangsness asks “Is there such a thing as a “cafeteria Mormon”? The answer is yes, and this has been a part of the church’s culture for a great while. And there are lots of people that could talk about this in a historical and cultural context. I will say that perhaps this oversight is not entirely her fault, as Wangsness quotes Joanna Brooks to this end:

Huntsman “may be living a brand of Mormonism that doesn’t have a name for itself yet - the equivalent of reform Mormonism,’’ said Joanna Brooks, a literature professor at San Diego State University and a Mormon who blogs on religion and culture at religiondispatches.org. That is, she said, “someone who is culturally Mormon, who identifies with the tradition, who has been shaped by Mormon thought in his upbringing, but doesn’t necessarily maintain orthodoxy on doctrinal beliefs.’’

As a source, Brooks gets brought into a lot of stories on Mormonism in a cultural context. I doubt I share her politics or many of her views on religion, but I’ve always found Brooks particularly insightful on Mormonism in a cultural context. So I would like to know more specifically about how she thinks Huntsman is “living a brand of Mormonism that doesn’t have a name for itself yet.” It’s true Huntsman is more high profile than most and perhaps a little more eclectic in his dabbling of other faiths, but broadly speaking Huntsman is hardly a new phenomenon.

So why does someone like Brooks specifically avoid the term Jack Mormon? It’s not a pejorative term, but in some select contexts Jack Mormon is not exactly a compliment. It’s often shorthand for “Mormon who drinks alcohol.” Jack Mormon may refer to fully lapsed or inactive members more often than not, though the definition is highly fungible. Given that Brooks seems to have a similar Mormon identity as Huntsman, I wonder if there’s not some overt attempt at rebranding going on. For what it’s worth, here’s how Weisberg handled the same issue in the Vogue profile:

People tend to see Mormonism as a binary, you-are-or-you-aren’t question, but Jon Huntsman is something more like a Reform Jew, who honors the spirit rather than the letter of his faith. He describes his family on his father’s side as “saloon keepers and rabble rousers,” and his mother’s side as “ministers and proselytizers.” The Huntsman side ran a hotel in Fillmore, Utah’s first capital, where they arrived with the wagon trains in the 1850s. They were mostly what Utahans call “Jack Mormons”—people with positive feelings about the Latter-Day Saints church who don’t follow all of its strictures. “We blend a couple of different cultures in this family,” he says.

Well, Weisberg did get the Jack Mormon thing. But I also think the comparisons to Reform Judaism are curious — barring a really, really radical change in the culture of the laity and Mormonism’s governing structure, a similar movement would a) probably not emerge and b) if it did, it would be unlikely to remain in the LDS church. But it is an attractive concept to a lot of liberal Mormon intellectuals (yes, they do exist).

So long as the media are very excited about the Huntsman candidacy, it might be helpful to get a few more orthodox Mormon voices and perspectives commenting on Huntsman’s religious approach.


TOPICS: Other Christian; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: huntsman; jackmormon; jonhuntsman
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1 posted on 08/23/2011 8:01:12 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

I thought Huntsman was a temple worthy mormon.


2 posted on 08/23/2011 8:03:44 AM PDT by svcw
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To: markomalley
Obama's 'faith' was a hands off inappropriate invasion of private matters and was not to be questions.

Now we see that for GOP'ers, including Bachman, their faith is front and center. The double standard lives.

3 posted on 08/23/2011 8:08:10 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: markomalley

What is a “Jack Mormon”, and is it as bad as a regular Mormon?


4 posted on 08/23/2011 8:09:45 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: svcw; markomalley

Speaking from my very secure “Back Row Baptist” position, I’ve called Huntsman “Jack” many times, along with Harry Reid, and Romney.

Total and complete fakes and hypocrites.


5 posted on 08/23/2011 8:11:13 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: markomalley
Was Ted Kennedy a lapsed Catholic?

The National Review reports that they always support the most viable conservative candidate.

The enemedia won't admit it, but they will always support the most viable liberal candidate.

Mitt at least talks a good game to conservatives whereas Huntsman gives them his middle finger. Thus they will support Huntsman over Romney.

6 posted on 08/23/2011 8:14:53 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: All
"Is Jon Huntsman a JackMormonASS?" YES!

Fixed!

7 posted on 08/23/2011 8:20:21 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Scanian; svcw; markomalley

While I believe Huntsman served an LDS mission and thus has gone through the LDS temple and taken oaths and wears the holy underwear, he has made statements that lead me to believe he is only a ‘cultural’ Mormon and not really ‘active’. However, he wouldn’t necessarily be a “Jack” as he doesn’t smoke, drink, etc but he wouldn’t be a TBM either. I also recall he is raising his children outside the Mormon faith.

However, both Romney and Reid are ‘active’, have church callings, temple attending, true believing Mormons - not “Jack” in anyway.

And I’m speaking as a former Mormon, not a ‘back row Baptist’.


8 posted on 08/23/2011 8:20:30 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: markomalley

There is no such thing as ‘reform Mormonism’, it is incompatible with the entire premise of Mormonism - a ‘restoration’.


9 posted on 08/23/2011 8:22:59 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: markomalley

Anyone running under the Mormon label against a black candidate is highly vulnerable to legitimate charges of racism, given the church’s history.

Any party nominating a Mormon to run against Obama is just plain stupid.


10 posted on 08/23/2011 8:23:47 AM PDT by Jedidah (I'll vote for an earthworm before I'll vote for Obama. So wiggle on in, Rick Perry.)
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To: markomalley

He’s a whole bunch of Jacks....


11 posted on 08/23/2011 8:29:50 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: markomalley

One assumption the writer makes that I would question. He implies that the press kept raising the Mormon issue in order to attack Romney.

That’s the opposite of what happened. It was Romney who raised the Mormon issue, at every possible opportunity. He played the Mormon card the way a black man would play the race card—accusing everyone of religious bigotry unless they voted for him.

It backfired on him. But he raised the issue, and the press tried very hard to help Romney, by accusing Republicans of anti-Mormon bigotry if they refused to support him. In actuality, most of us opposed Romney because he was, and is, a flip-flopping RINO liar.


12 posted on 08/23/2011 8:30:25 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: markomalley

A jack Mormon AND a jack republican as well!

R I N O ! ! !


13 posted on 08/23/2011 8:37:28 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: Bigun

He certainly Jack Squat.


14 posted on 08/23/2011 8:38:39 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: markomalley

I don’t know if Huntsman is a jack Mormon, but he is a jackass Republican, exactly what we don’t need.


15 posted on 08/23/2011 8:49:23 AM PDT by pallis
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To: markomalley

**“Is there such a thing as a “cafeteria Mormon”? The answer is yes, and this has been a part of the church’s culture for a great while.**

Not just cafeteria Catholics, but now cafeteria mormons too? LOL!


16 posted on 08/23/2011 8:54:16 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: stuartcr

I lived in Bountiful, UT for 9 years. The “Jack” mormons I knew didn’t go to “church”, hung around with “gentiles” (Catholics, Jews, Episcopalians, etc.), smoked, drank booze and coffee, and gambled. If Huntsman does these things, he is a Jack Mormon.


17 posted on 08/23/2011 8:54:25 AM PDT by anoldafvet (17 months until we're rid of "President Downgrade")
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To: stuartcr

It’s in the article.


18 posted on 08/23/2011 8:55:14 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Got it


19 posted on 08/23/2011 9:07:05 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: markomalley
Jon Huntsman is a self absorbed Rhino who the establishment foisted on us to bring some “sanity” to us unwashed conservatives. He has no support and will soon disappear like the nobody liberal he is...he will then be haled by the Rhinos and libtards as yet another voice of reason discarded by the far right extremists. He will then take his place alongside Johnny Mclame and Amnestry Gramnestry!!!
20 posted on 08/23/2011 9:10:04 AM PDT by ontap
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