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To: bronx2; vladimir998
The thing is that like many other tales brought up by our friends here, these are marketing lies of a 500 year old, failed product and one that is fading fast, hence the desperation to spread their untruths

If one looks at the real history of the same people who lead to the Junkers and Prussian sensibility that outlined German history from 1870 to 1945

let's trace the Huguenots, shall we. In france, under Francis I, France was tolerant of all religious views

however, what did the Huguenots do? In the affair of the placards they posted placards all over Paris and even on the bedchamber door of the king (a security breach that angered him and made him change his tolerance position) -- these placards were attacks on Catholics.

So, instead of discussing, the Huguenots went to attack the Catholic majority who until then were content to let them live and debate and discuss and debate. Incidently, until this time the Huguenots were increasing, like the Moslems in Bradford, but then they started to get shrill and wake people up with their attacks

This polemic was an attack and the Huguenots started this retaliation.This was in 1534

Next, came the French wars of religion in which the Huguenots conspired against the King. This, added to the previous attack meant that they now publically came to attack the conservative forces. The progressives of the Huguenots were the precursors of the Revolutionaires

The people who became Huguenots were primarily the urban elite, like our present-day New Yorkers who take a fad and they saw that this was a means to oppose the King, so Huguenotism became a political tool

A group of Huguenots tried to kidnap the Prince Francis II when his father died -- causing more antagonism.

Huguenots in 1560 attacked Catholic Churchs and destroyed properties in Rouen and La Rochelle -- thus the FIRST salvo was lobbed by the Huguenots. -- the Catholics retailiated with mobs at seeing their places of worship attacked and defiled by Huguenots

Next, in 1562-70, we have the wars -- now political-religious, so no, it was not a simple case of "persecution" --> The Huguenots were one side of a civil war, which they lost

Now, let's come to the juicy part, the St. Bart's day massacre -- this occured in 1572, 40 years after the first provocations by the Huguenots and 12 years after they started destroying Catholic Churchs (just like the Moslems in America they were quiet until their numbers grew)

now, King Charles XI was openly in favor of the Huguenots -- so a political moment. Hence the attacks on the opposing side

So, let's see in conclusion -- Huguenots first start their provocations in 1534, then in 1560 start attacking Catholic Churchs (with no provocation), then start their political support against the conservatives and start a civil war. After 12 years their side loses the civil war and yet they are still allowed to live and practise their faith (note this is the 1500s, not a nice time, yet they get this tolerance) -- but they still play political intrigues. So, one faction starts to attack and massacre the other faction

so, their proponents ought to stop the entire "poor persecuted Huguenots" -- they brought it on themselves.

19 posted on 08/21/2011 2:27:25 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Cronos; Dr. Eckleburg; Forest Keeper; Gamecock; RnMomof7; HarleyD; fish hawk; Alex Murphy; ...
"...posted placards all over Paris..."

"...polemic was an attack"

"...attacked Catholic Churchs and destroyed properties..."

That anyone in the Roman Catholic community could possibly equate placards, arguing, and even destroying property with the slaughter of humans is remarkable. Although it is almost assuredly in doubt, even if what you claimed were completely true, that you would conclude the Huguenots "brought it on themselves" discloses much about Rome's deep need for props and its absence of understanding faith, alone. No wonder the Reformation got traction.

Real reform, the heart of the Huguenot message, meant that reliance upon human anything, is a return to Law, a slavery promoted by Rome (read the Catholic historian excerpt), but despised by the Apostle Paul (read Galatians, Romans, Acts). Rome clung to self-reliance, in spite of claims they acknowledge Augustine's victory over Pelagius and have since morphed that into a reliance upon Rome.

The trust which the Holy Spirit creates in the soul of an elect believer recognizes grace as an unmerited favor which removes the need for anything...except Jesus. Rome, on the other hand, kills for statues, bones, bricks and placards. Astonishing that they would admit it.

34 posted on 08/22/2011 10:52:33 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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