[caww]

Penance has no Scriptural basis.

Agree...but catholics do "believe" otherwise as we know. It's as though they have all these other venues becuase the finished work of Christ is not enough for them. So in reality it's a denial of Christ.

Jesus set us free.....catholics see themselves yet in bondage to the law by the rituals and various do or do not "clauses" their church has implemented via the vatican, so it's definately a stronghold.IMO. ....and their leadership desires that they remain that way.

[Judith Anne]

It's as though they have all these other venues becuase the finished work of Christ is not enough for them.

Wrong! The finished work of Christ is enough for the whole world for all eternity.

[Judith Anne]

catholics see themselves yet in bondage to the law by the rituals and various do or do not "clauses" their church has implemented via the vatican, so it's definately a stronghold.IMO. ....and their leadership desires that they remain that way.

When you post rank falsehood like that, does your conscience smite you? If not, perhaps you should pray for the grace of a conscience!

[metmom]

Exactly. All there is is fear.

Fear of slipping up.

Fear of never making the grade, no matter how much you try, hoping against hope that at the very least you’re only looking at an extended stay in purgatory instead of hell itself.

There is no freedom when your entire eternal destiny is based on your perfect performance, which no one can possibly achieve anyway.

[Cronos]

you'll say "penance has no scriptural basis"

The scriptures refute you

• 2 Cor 5:18-20 18And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
  19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
  20Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

  John 20:21-23 21Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
  22And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
  23Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.Christ salvific work on the Cross saves us and provides us this reconciliation.

[Cronos]

see themselves yet in bondage to the law by the rituals and various do or do not "clauses"

As shown by your group's posts over and over again, your posts have no clue about anything

It's like the time your post said that there would be a business and commercial complex set up on the archaeological dig site of Babylon

It would be good to read the Bible and some history before your group mouths its nonsense.