Posted on 08/18/2011 7:18:16 AM PDT by marshmallow
So why is the seal of confession inviolable? Why does the seal bind under such a grave obligation that the Church excommunicates any confessor who directly violates it? (See: The seal of confession: some basics)
There are two principal reasons why the priest must preserve the seal: the virtue of justice and the virtue of religion. The motive of justice is evident because the penitent, by the very fact of entering the confessional, or asking the priest to hear his confession (we’ll deal with “reconciliation rooms” another day) rightly expects that the priest will observe the seal. This is a contract entered into by the fact of the priest agreeing to hear a person’s confession. To mandate the violation of the seal is in effect to prohibit the celebration of the sacrament of Penance.
Much more grave than the obligation of justice towards the penitent is the obligation of religion due to the sacrament. The Catholic Encyclopaedia gives a brief explanation of the virtue of religion which essentially summarises the teaching of St Thomas Aquinas. (Summa Theologica 2a 2ae q.81) Religion is a moral virtue by which we give to God what is His due; it is, as St Thomas says, a part of justice. In the case of the sacrament of Penance, instituted by Christ, Fr Felix Cappello explains things well [my translation]:
By the very fact that Christ permitted, nay ordered, that all baptised sinners should use the sacrament and consequently make a secret confession, he granted an absolutely inviolable right, transcending the order of natural justice, to use this remedy. Therefore the knowledge which was their own before confession, after the communication made in confession, remains their own for every non-sacramental use, and that by a power altogether sacred, which no contrary human law can strike out, since every human law is of an inferior order: whence this right cannot be taken away or overridden by any means, or any pretext, or any motive.
The penitent confesses his sins to God through the priest. If the seal were to be broken under some circumstances, it would put people off the sacrament and thereby prevent them from receiving the grace that they need in order to repent and amend their lives. It would also, and far more importantly, obstruct the will of God for sinners to make use of the sacrament of Penance and thereby enjoy eternal life. The grace of the sacrament is absolutely necessary for anyone who commits a mortal sin. To mandate the violation of the seal is in effect to prohibit the practice of the Catholic faith. Some secular commentators have spoken of the seal of confession as being somehow a right or privilege of the priest. That is a preposterous misrepresentation: it is a sacred and inviolable duty that the priest must fulfil for the sake of the penitent and for the sake of God's will to redeem sinners.
A possibly misleading phrase in this context is where theologians say that the penitent is confessing his sins as if to God "ut Deo." (You can easily imagine secularists deriding the idea that the priest makes himself to be a god etc.) In truth, the penitent is confessing his sins before God. The priest acts as the minister of Christ in a sacred trust which he may not violate for any cause - precisely because he is not in fact God. By virtue of the penitent’s confession ut Deo, the priest absolves the penitent and, if mortal sin is involved, thereby readmits him to Holy Communion.
There will be more to follow on the sacrament of confession. As I mentioned in my previous post, this series is not intended as a guide for making a devout confession but rather as an introduction to some canonical and theological questions regarding the sacrament which have become important recently. (For a leaflet on how to make a good confession, see my parish website.)
I have been told that the threat in Ireland to introduce a law compelling priests to violate the seal of confession has been withdrawn, at least for the time being. Nevertheless, I will continue with these posts because I think that the Irish proposal will be picked up by other secularists and may pose a problem for us. Further posts will look at the proper place, time and vesture for hearing confessions, one or two more particular crimes in canon law, the question of jurisdiction and the much misused expression “Ecclesia supplet”, and, of course, what to do if the civil authority tries to compel a priest to break the seal.
Or walked on water and not sunk?
It's a completely buffoonish position to assume that Strong's Concordance is infallible. Note that both Easton's Bible Dictionary and Smith's Bible Dictionary corroborate the naming of Laodicea after queen Laodice. It is however, quite useful for eisegesis.
The MagicSternum. I'll trust Godly married men and the Ru'ach HaKodesh
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
over a bunch of "boys" running around in dresses in Rome.
Even if they are married to women preachers?
“”Over and over again, as I showed in my previous post, the only rock that God says the church is built on is God Himself....Actually the Apostles AND the prophets with Jesus as the chief corner stone (Rock). “”
The cornerstone has nothing to do with Peter being Rock,you’re confusing the two
Here is more excerpts from outside source since I am not going to spend lots of time on your errors
http://catholic-response.blogspot.com/2011/01/peter-rock-of-church-vicar-of-christ.html
non-Catholics dispute Peter’s leadership and his being the rock-foundation of the Church despite the declaration of Jesus and the testimony of the Bible. Anti-popes quote 1Corinthians 3:11; 1Peter 2:6-8, and Ephesians 2:20 to try to disprove Jesus’ pronouncements in Mt 16:17-19. But can the Bible actually contradict itself in such a very important subject? 1Cor 3:11 reads: “No one can lay a foundation other than the one that is already laid, namely, Jesus Christ.” Non-Catholics use this verse to try to prove that Jesus, and not Peter, is the Church’s rock-foundation. Indeed, if the verse is taken alone and out of context, it talks about Jesus being a foundation. But of what?
Reading the entire chapter will reveal that Paul is not referring here to Jesus as the foundation of the Church but that of the Christian faith. It is important to make a distinction between the Christian church and the Christian faith. When we talk about the Church, we speak more of the structure and make-up of the body of Christ. On the other hand, faith is the “spirit” underlying the Church.
Faith is a requisite to become a member of the Church. It is not the Church. When Paul spoke to the Corinthians about Jesus as a foundation, it is clear from the entire text that he meant Jesus as the foundation of the faith. It can be said that one can accept Jesus in faith but still be apart from the church that he founded.
Other sheep
The Lord alluded to Christians not part of the Church in Jn 10:16, where he said: “I have other sheep that do not belong to this fold. These I must also lead, and they will hear my voice, and there will be one flock, one shepherd.”Although Jesus acknowledged “other sheep” outside his fold, or outside the Church, he stressed the need for these to also be part of his “one flock,” obviously referring to the one church he founded in Mt 16:17-19.
Going back to 1Cor 13, Paul is concerned that the faith in Jesus that he instilled (or founded) in the hearts of the Corinthians was imperiled by “jealousy and rivalry” among the faithful (verse 4). This division is caused by loyalties to certain church elders. He noted in verse 4 the claims of some already disputing Corinthian-Christians who were saying: “I belong to Paul” or “I belong to Apollos.”
Paul tried to resolve the conflict by stressing that all the ministers of the church were “equal” (verse 8) and were all “God’s co-workers” (verse 9). He cited the various respective works done by each individual church worker but stressed that Jesus was still the central figure of the faith.
In verses 10 to 11, he said: “I as a good architect, according to the capacity given to me, I laid the foundation and another is to build upon it. But each one must be careful how he builds upon it, for no one can lay a foundation other than the one that is already laid, namely, Jesus Christ.” Again, what is pointed out here by Paul is the effect of each individual church minister’s work on the faith-foundation of the members of the Church—not the church structure or make-up. To follow the claim of the anti-popes that Jesus is the foundation of the Church would be to commit a grave error.
Grave error
This would be so because if we take verse 11 to mean that Jesus is the foundation of the church structure, then we would be making Paul the one who laid the church’s foundation. We should keep in mind that he said in verse 10: “I laid the foundation.” Now, how could Paul have laid the foundation of the church he himself was already in or was already a part of? More importantly, such an interpretation of verse 11 would run in direct contrast to Jesus’ founding of the Church in Mt 16:17-19, which is the only biblical text that clearly deals on the subject.
As to 1Pet 2:6, the verse states: “For it says in scripture: ‘Behold I am laying a stone in Zion, a cornerstone, chosen and precious, and whoever believes in it shall not be put to shame.’” The verse, which is taken from Isaiah 28:16, is also echoed in Mt 21:42; Lk 20-17, and Acts 4:11. In these, Jesus is referred to as a “cornerstone,” which does not offer any contradiction to the Lord’s declaration of Peter as being the rock-foundation of the Church. Non-Catholics confuse the cornerstone to be the rock in Mt 16:17 and think that these are one and the same. Unfortunately, these are two different things.
Simply put, Jesus as the cornerstone is different from Peter being the rock.
I love Peter but My Lord Jesus Christ is the rock.
2 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
I agree, but the agony must have been incredible. I used to think what is the big deal it is only for a few hours, Yeah right, I do and did not have a clue. To me it is a mystery.
What they don't get because it's spiritually discerned is the spiritual circumcision made without hands...They are completely ignorant about it...
Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 3:3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
But why don't these people know this??? Because they have put their religious teachings above God's word...They don't even know what God has to say to them...
Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
It's all in the scriptures...The word of God...The only authority...
Reading and believing the word of God will cut thru the trash of anyone's tradition, rituals, superstitions, false worship...The word of God...
Believing God's word will show one how this operation of God works...The words in that book teach us that our soul and spirit are separated from our joint and marrow...
Our soul and spirit are no longer connected to our flesh...The Jews had the outward circumcision...We Christians have the inward circumcision...They are both an operation...One physical, one spiritual...The body and soul are separated...
It is our soul that has become purified...That soul is what will be accepted into the arms of Jesus at the moment of our death...
They don't get that...
Our bodies will become purified at the resurrection, the Rapture, and reunited with our souls...
It's all in there...
>>It can be said that one can accept Jesus in faith but still be apart from the church that he founded.<<
That whole thought process is so preposterous it smacks of a cult. The true church of Christ consists of all those who profess faith in Him and only Him. For some earthly organization to usurp that is blasphemy.
Now, to illustrate your “in depth” study let’s look at one of the paragraphs you included in your post. I don’t know if you cut and pasted that from somewhere or wrote it yourself (my guess is cut and paste) but it illustrates your poor study habits and propensity to quickly accept someone else’s interpretation. A dangerous fault to say the least.
>>Going back to 1Cor 13, Paul is concerned that the faith in Jesus that he instilled (or founded) in the hearts of the Corinthians was imperiled by “jealousy and rivalry” among the faithful (verse 4). This division is caused by loyalties to certain church elders. He noted in verse 4 the claims of some already disputing Corinthian-Christians who were saying: “I belong to Paul” or “I belong to Apollos.”
Now let’s actually look at what 1 Cor 3 says. (you actually said 1 Cor 13 but the scripture quoted is 1 Cor 3 which was quoted earlier in your post and what I assume you meant.) You referenced verse 4.
1 Corinthians 13:4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
That verse is a perfect example of what we are talking about. You RCC folk say you follow “the Pope” just as Paul was scolding the Corinthians for doing by following one Apostle or the other. It’s a perfect example of the true church not being of one organization or another but is in fact the entirety of those true believers in Jesus Christ. The RCC has only attempted to usurp or “vicar” the true Christ.
Telling us that you have and are quoting from the Original Greek is lying...
Words such as "wrong" "error" "false" do not attribute motive.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Are you being dishonest, or you just don't know scripture...
It doesn't bother me that you seem to know so little scripture but coming to a public forum apparently acting like a real authority on the bible is more than we can just stand by and let you get away with...
You poor, poor people. Following the religious teachings of an earthly organization has blinded you. We aren’t in this flesh “pure enough” nor will we ever be. We have taken on the purity of Christ given freely by Him. Col 3:3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When we stand before the throne of the Father we go “in Jesus name” and the Father sees Jesus, not our earthly filth. We have already been forgiven of all of our sins and He has removed them from us “as far as the East is from the West.
Once you who profess faith in the RCC realize the peace and freedom a true Spirit filled follower of Christ has you will understand the joy.
Do the writings of the "church fathers" trump or impugn the Holy Word of G-d ? To assign YHvH's NAME to a mere mortal, It also greives the Holy Spirit.
I published this study on FreeRepublic about the "Rock" over six years ago. Matthew. 16:18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this Rock I will build my church,
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
One method of Hermeneutical understanding of Matthew 16:18
is to do a word study of all the scriptures which were then known
as the Holy Word of G-d when Yah'shua spoke these words.
This will allow one to understand that all of the Holy Word of G-d
was inspired by YHvH; the whole counsel of G-d.
The only conclusion that one can come to unless you are
predisposed to believe in man's tradition over the Holy Word of G-d
is that Yah'shua was speaking of himself as the "Rock "
e.g.
Peter himself refers to Yah'shua as the "rock" in
Genesis 49:24 But his bow remained steady, his strong arms stayed
[Or archers will attack...will shoot...will remain...will stay] supple,
because of the hand of the Mighty One of Jacob,
because of the Shepherd, the Rock of Israel,
Deuteronomy 32:3 I will proclaim the name of YHvH. Oh, praise the greatness of our God!
Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock , his works are perfect, and all his ways are
just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he.
Deuteronomy 32:15 ..... He abandoned the God who made him and rejected the Rock his Saviour.
Deuteronomy 32:30 How could one man chase a thousand, or two put ten
thousand to flight, unless their Rock had sold them, unless
YHvH had given them up?
Deuteronomy 32:31 For their rock is not like our Rock , as even our enemies concede
Deuteronomy 32:32 Their vine comes from the vine of Sodom and from the fields of Gomorrah.
Their grapes are filled with poison, and their clusters with bitterness.
1 Samuel 2:2 "There is no-one holy [Or no Holy One] like YHvH;
there is no-one besides you; there is no Rock like our God.
2 Samuel 22:2 He said: "YHvH is my Rock , my fortress and my deliverer;
2 Samuel 22:3 my God is my Rock , in whom I take refuge, my shield and the
horn [Horn here symbolises strength.] of my salvation.
He is my stronghold, my refuge and my saviour — from violent men you save me.
2 Samuel 22:32 For who is God besides YHvH? And who is the Rock except our God?
2 Samuel 22:47 "YHvH lives! Praise be to my Rock ! Exalted be God, the Rock , my Saviour!
2 Samuel 23:3 The God of Israel spoke, the Rock of Israel said to me:
'When one rules over men in righteousness, when he rules in the fear of God,
Psalm 18:31 For who is God besides YHvH? And who is the Rock except our God?
Psalm 18:46 YHvH lives! Praise be to my Rock ! Exalted be God my Saviour!
Psalm 19:14 May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart
be pleasing in your sight, O LORD, my Rock and my Redeemer.
Psalm 42:9 I say to God my Rock , "Why have you forgotten me? Why must I go about mourning, oppressed by the enemy?"
Psalm 78:35 They remembered that God was their Rock , that God Most High was their Redeemer.
Psalm 89:26 He will call out to me, `You are my Father, my God, the Rock my Saviour.'
Psalm 92:15 ..... "YHvH is upright; he is my Rock , and there is no wickedness in him."
Psalm 95:1 Come, let us sing for joy to YHvH; let us shout aloud to the Rock of our salvation.
Psalm 144:1 Praise be to YHvH my Rock , who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.
Habakkuk 1:12 Oh YHvH, are you not from everlasting? My God, my Holy
One, we will not die. Oh YHvH, you have appointed them to
execute judgment; O Rock , you have ordained them to punish.
1 Peter 2:1-10 NAsbU 1 Peter 2:
It is patently clear from the Holy Word of G-d
1 Therefore, putting aside all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander,
2 like newborn babies, long for the pure milk of the word, so that by it you may grow in respect to salvation,
3 if you have tasted the kindness of YHvH.
4 And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in the sight of God,
5 you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices
acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
6 For this is contained in Scripture: "BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A CHOICE STONE, A PRECIOUS CORNER stone,
AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED."
7 This precious value, then, is for you who believe; but for those who disbelieve, "THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED,
THIS BECAME THE VERY CORNER stone,"
8 and, "A STONE OF STUMBLING AND A ROCK OF OFFENSE"; for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word,
and to this doom they were also appointed.
9 But you are A CHOSEN RACE, A royal PRIESTHOOD, A HOLY NATION, A PEOPLE FOR God's OWN POSSESSION,
so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;
10 for you once were NOT A PEOPLE, but now you are THE PEOPLE OF GOD; you had NOT RECEIVED MERCY,
but now you have RECEIVED MERCY.
that the NAME "Rock" is a NAME that describes YHvH,
the creator of the universe.
a created being, seeks to impugn and
deny the Holy Word of G-d.
You are right. We should all heed the heavenly teachings of Jean Calvin who said: "Build a man a fire and you warm him for a day. Light a man on fire and you warm him for the rest of his life".
Even if they are married to women preachers?
YES. Over "boys" running around in dresses;
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
“This would be so because if we take verse 11 to mean that Jesus is the foundation of the church structure, then we would be making Paul the one who laid the church’s foundation. We should keep in mind that he said in verse 10: “I laid the foundation.” Now, how could Paul have laid the foundation of the church he himself was already in or was already a part of?”
First, Paul's words were directed to the congregation that gathered in Corinth, not the entire Christian church and this is where Paul HAD laid the foundation by at first preaching to the Jews in Corinth and then going to the Gentiles there.
Paul acknowledges the foundation as not his own but that of the Christ.
Secondly, While Peter is afforded great respect as an ‘elder’ figuratively and literally, he is never treated as the leader of the early Christian church. His use of the “keys” in affirmation of what already decided in heaven did not elevate Peter to head of the apostles or even the believers there in Jerusalem.
The Biblical record shows Peter was one of seveal foundation stones not the corner or the head.
If you are referring to the clothing that Jesus and his disciples wore they were robes comprised of tunics, girdles and cloaks. Trousers, then called bracae, were worn by the Roman soldiers who crucified Him.
Priests were required to wear vestments is well established in Scripture:
Exodus 28:2
And thou shalt make a holy vesture for Aaron, thy brother, for glory and for beauty.
Exodus 28:3
And thou shalt speak to all the wise of heart, whom I have filled with the spirit of wisdom, that they may make Aaron's vestments, in which he being consecrated, may minister to me.
Exodus 28:4
And these shall be the vestments that they shall make: A rational and an ephod, a tunic and a strait linen garment, a mitre and a girdle. They shall make the holy vestments for thy brother Aaron and his sons, that they may do the office of priesthood unto me.
Exodus 28:5
And they shall take gold, and violet, and purple, and scarlet twice dyed, and fine linen.
Exodus 28:6
And they shall make the ephod of gold, and violet, and purple, and scarlet twice dyed, and fine twisted linen, embroidered with divers colors.
Exodus 28:7
It shall have the two edges joined in the top on both sides, that they may be closed together.
Exodus 28:8
The very workmanship also, and all the variety of the work, shall be of gold, and violet, and purple, and scarlet twice dyed, and fine twisted linen.
Exodus 28:37
And thou shalt tie it with a violet fillet, and it shall be upon the mitre,
Exodus 28:39
And thou shalt gird the tunic with fine linen, and thou shalt make a fine linen mitre, and a girdle of embroidered work.
Exodus 29:6
And thou shalt put the mitre upon his head, and the holy plate upon the mitre,
Exodus 39:1
And he made, of violet and purple, scarlet and fine linen, the vestments for Aaron to wear when he ministered in the holy places, as the Lord commanded Moses.
Exodus 39:2
So he made an ephod of gold, violet, and purple, and scarlet twice dyed, and fine twisted linen,
Exodus 39:3
With embroidered work, and he cut thin plates of gold, and drew them small into threads, that they might be twisted with the woof of the foresaid colours,
Exodus 39:4
And two borders coupled one to the other in the top on either side,
Exodus 39:5
And a girdle of the same colours, as the Lord had commanded Moses.
Exodus 39:6
He prepared also two onyx stones, fast set and closed in gold, and graven, by the art of a lapidary, with the names of the children of Israel:
Exodus 39:7
And he set them in the sides of the ephod, for a memorial of the children of Israel, as the Lord had commanded Moses.
Exodus 39:8
He made also a rational with embroidered work, according to the work of the ephod, of gold, violet, purple, and scarlet twice dyed, and fine twisted linen:
Exodus 39:9
Foursquare, double, of the measure of a span.
Exodus 39:10
And he set four rows of precious stones in it. In the first row was a sardius, a topaz, an emerald.
Exodus 39:11
In the second, a carbuncle, a sapphire, and a jasper.
Exodus 39:12
In the third, a ligurius, an agate, and an amethyst.
Exodus 39:13
In the fourth, a chrysolite, an onyx, and a beryl, set and enclosed in gold by their rows.
Exodus 39:14
And the twelve stones, were engraved with the names of the twelve tribes of Israel, each one with its several name.
Exodus 39:15
They made also in the rational little chains, linked one to another, of the purest gold,
Exodus 39:16
And two hooks, and as many rings of gold. And they set the rings on either side of the rational,
Exodus 39:17
On which rings the two golden chains should hang, which they put into the hooks that stood out in the corners of the ephod.
Exodus 39:18
These both before and behind so answered one another, that the ephod and the rational were bound together,
Exodus 39:19
Being fastened to the girdle, and strongly coupled with rings, which a violet fillet joined, lest they should flag loose, and be moved one from the other, as the Lord commanded Moses.
Exodus 39:20
They made also the tunic of the ephod all of violet,
Exodus 39:21
And a hole for the head in the upper part at the middle, and a woven border round about the hole:
Exodus 39:22
And beneath at the feet pomegranates of violet, purple, scarlet, and fine twisted linen:
Exodus 39:23
And little bells of the purest gold, which they put between the pomegranates at the bottom of the tunic round about:
Exodus 39:24
To wit, a bell of gold, and a pomegranate, wherewith the high priest went adorned, when he discharged his ministry, as the Lord had commanded Moses.
Exodus 39:25
They made also fine linen tunics with woven work for Aaron and his sons:
Exodus 39:26
And mitres with their little crowns of fine linen:
Exodus 39:27
And linen breeches of fine linen:
Exodus 39:28
And a girdle of fine twisted linen, violet, purple, and scarlet twice dyed, of embroidery work, as the Lord had commanded Moses.
Exodus 39:29
They made also the plate of sacred veneration of the purest gold, and they wrote on it with the engraving of a lapidary: The Holy of the Lord:
Leviticus 6:10
The priest shall be vested with the tunick and the linen breeches; and he shall take up the ashes of that which the devouring fire hath burnt: and putting them beside the altar,
Leviticus 6:11
Shall put off his former vestments, and being clothed with others, shall carry them forth without the camp, and shall cause them to be consumed to dust in a very clean place. Leviticus 8:13
And after he had offered his sons, he vested them with linen tunicks, and girded them with girdles: and put mitres on them as the Lord had commanded.
Ezekiel 42:14 And when the priests shall have entered in, they shall not go out of the holy places into the outward court: but there they shall lay their vestments, wherein they minister, for they are holy: and they shall put on other garments, and so they shall go forth to the people.
Ezekiel 44:17 And when they shall enter in at the gates of the inner court, they shall be clothed with linen garments: neither shall any woollen come upon them, when they minister in the gates of the inner court and within.
Ezekiel 44:18 They shall have linen mitres on their heads, and linen breeches on their loins, and they shall not be girded with any thing that causeth sweat.
Ezekiel 44:19 And when they shall go forth to the outward court to the people, they shall put off their garments wherein they ministered, and lay them up in the store chamber of the sanctuary, and they shall clothe themselves with other garments: and they shall not sanctify the people with their vestments.
Let me guess, you haven't grasped the concept of "state" versus "standing" yet. Let me help, our standing in Christ is our "position" in Christ that we get from trusting in Jesus Christ as our savior. We become children of God by his grace through faith. It has to do with how God sees us.
Our state has to do with our actual spiritual condition at any given point in our life. It depends upon our submission to God's will, our sensitivity to the Holy Spirit's leading and our obedience to God's commands. So the difference between standing and state can be summed up by thinking about our position in Christ - which is secure, and our practice - how we live our lives in this world.
A prince, while he is a little child, is presumably as willful and as ignorant as other little children. Sometimes he may be very obedient and teachable and affectionate, and then he is happy and approved. At other times he may be unruly, self-willed, and disobedient, and then he is unhappy, and perhaps is chastised—but he is just as much a prince on the one day as on the other. It may be hoped that, as time goes on, he will learn to bring himself into willing and affectionate subjection to every right way, and then he will be more princely, but not more really a prince. He was born a prince" (C.I.Scofield, Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth).
If you are referring to the clothing that Jesus and his disciples wore they were robes comprised of tunics, girdles and cloaks. Trousers, then called bracae, were worn by the Roman soldiers who crucified Him.
Priests were required to wear vestments is well established in Scripture:
Yah'shua did not create a priesthood other than that. Forty years later YHvH destroyed His Temple and His Priesthood. QED: therefore there is no need for "boys" running Peter tells us we are all priests.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
around in dresses pretending to be priests.
Excellent example! Thank you.
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