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To: NYer

I am protestant, I will never become Catholic. I will work with Catholics, however and have no problem with that. My problem lies in that I would have to trely on the word of a single human beings to be in charge of my faith. Humans are evil creatures from birth and I will never rely on anyone else than God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit to save me.


22 posted on 08/04/2011 10:13:20 AM PDT by vpintheak (Democrats: Robbing humans of their dignity 1 law at a time)
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To: vpintheak
Thank you for taking the time to read this thread and post a comment. It is always good to hear from others in the forum. You wrote:

My problem lies in that I would have to trely on the word of a single human beings to be in charge of my faith. Humans are evil creatures from birth and I will never rely on anyone else than God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit to save me.

By "single human", I am presuming you are referring to papal authority. Since you share our love for Scripture, let's take a closer look at what it says. Christ stated that the Church, not Scripture should be the final authority: "And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the Church: but if he neglect to hear the Church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican." (Matthew 18:17 ) Christ did not state to refer to or consult Scripture for disputes and correction. He said to go to the Church as It is the final authority in Christianity. In addition, St. Paul states that the Church, not Scripture is "THE pillar and ground of the truth." (1 Timothy 3:15) Since the Church alone is mentioned as the pillar of truth, then It alone has the right to discern the truth and interpret Scripture. For if individuals could correctly interpret Scripture, then all interpretations would be exactly the same as there can only be one Spiritual Truth for the plural of the word "truth" never appears in Scripture. The Church is Christ's bride (Ephesians 5:29) and has "no spot, wrinkle or blemish" (Ephesians 5:27). Christ also stated that the gates of Hell will not prevail against His Church (Matthew 16:18) so how can the Church commit error? Individual clergy may commit sins, even popes commit sins because in the Church there are both "weeds and wheat" (Matthew 13:30).

In its 2000 year history, not one pope has ever erred in matters of faith or morals. That is testimony to the work of the Holy Spirit in safeguarding the Church established by Jesus Christ.

26 posted on 08/04/2011 12:06:04 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: vpintheak

**I will never become Catholic**

Never say “never.”

Abby Johnson’s husband, in a quote in the article said the same thing. Today Doug and Abby Johnson are pro life Catholics.

Perhaps God has other plans for you, ever think of it that way?

The one man, Jesus Christ, is who the Catholic faith is founded on. No problems for billions of Catholics!


32 posted on 08/04/2011 2:38:18 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: vpintheak

Catholic convert here, after 20 years as a Protestant/ non-denom, etc. — no one tells ME what to believe. It’s me and the Lord all the way, and He would not lead me astray.


40 posted on 08/04/2011 3:42:33 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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