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Why are prominent pro-lifers swimming the Tiber?
OSV ^ | August 4, 2011 | Kevin Birnbaum

Posted on 08/04/2011 8:36:59 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 08/04/2011 8:37:02 AM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

I’m one of the prolife converts! Excellent article!


2 posted on 08/04/2011 8:38:33 AM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman!)
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
Here is yet another story of a remarkable conversion.

In describing his conversion, Adasevic said he "dreamed about a beautiful field full of children and young people who were playing and laughing, from 4 to 24 years of age, but who ran away from him in fear. A man dressed in a black and white habit stared at him in silence. The dream was repeated each night and he would wake up in a cold sweat. One night he asked the man in black and white who he was. ‘My name is Thomas Aquinas,’ the man in his dream responded. Adasevic, educated in communist schools, had never heard of the Dominican genius saint. He didn’t recognize the name."

Serbian Abortionist Who Aborted 48,000 Babies Becomes Pro-Life Activist

3 posted on 08/04/2011 8:39:25 AM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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There are too many, including many frequent posters to the Religion Forum, who will see these conversions as a tragic loss and failure of Christianity. Unfortunately, they see maintaining the Protestant orthodoxy as a greater good than the “works” of the pro-life movement. Do you suppose that is what final judgment is for?
4 posted on 08/04/2011 8:44:06 AM PDT by Natural Law (For God so loved the world He did not send a book.)
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Wow! This is fantastic! A young seminarian recently shared with me about his call from God (after he had left the Church) and it also involved a dream...he had the same dream 3 times.

The Holy Spirit is very active. ;-)


5 posted on 08/04/2011 8:45:03 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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Because it’s the most consistent denomination when it comes to life. No other approaches it. Not only is it church policy, but the vast majority of Catholics, leaders or followers, actually subscribe to it.

Unfortunately, too many see it as a “tradable political issue”. IOW, if one candidate is pro-job and another is pro-life, there’s this logic that says that’s an even trade off. “Life” is not an issue. It’s the premier God-given right.


6 posted on 08/04/2011 8:49:37 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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The Holy Spirit is very active. ;-)

Amen. There are a lot of really good things going on in the Church. God is raising up a zealous, faithful Remnant. There is great reason for Hope, even as the temporal world itself swirls down a horrifying abyss.

7 posted on 08/04/2011 8:55:46 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Woooo Hoooo...

You are so right! I am quite excited about what God is going these days!

;-))))))))))))))))


8 posted on 08/04/2011 8:59:06 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: NYer

Goes to show that God is calling more people home in faith conversion.


9 posted on 08/04/2011 8:59:23 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: xzins
Not only is it church policy, but the vast majority of Catholics, leaders or followers, actually subscribe to it.

Don't drink the Kool-Aid:

...The disagreement over Notre Dame and Obama is essentially the same as the disagreement among clashing American Catholic camps over the issue of the moral and legal status of abortion itself. In fact, 61 percent of the “attend less often” Catholics believe that abortion rights should be protected in all or most cases, as opposed to 30 percent (still an interesting number) among the “attend weekly” Catholics.

-- from the thread Those consistently complex “Catholic voters”

How Catholic Universities Support Planned Parenthood
Guttmacher Report on Catholic Contraceptive Use
Guttmacher Report on Catholic Contraceptive Use

10 posted on 08/04/2011 9:02:18 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed: he's hated on seven continents)
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To: xzins; NYer; Natural Law

Because it’s the most consistent denomination when it comes to life.
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and more. like gay marriage, women priests, reading the Quran in church and “Chrislam”, etc.
certainly i admire many of my Baptist brothers and sisters.
their faith, Bible knowledge, etc.
but the Catholic Church has built-in “checks and balances”,
that prevent most “drift” and inconsistencies.

however, most important, sincere praise to ALL Christians, who fight for the unborn lives, that God has created.
(and thanks to NYer for posting this)


11 posted on 08/04/2011 9:06:16 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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Alex, xzins said "vast majority". We have our bad apples, as any collection of humanity will... but the vast majority of the more than 1 billion Catholics worldwide are pro-life!

I pray daily for the Church to deal more forcefully and publicly with the openly scandalous in our midst.

12 posted on 08/04/2011 9:13:26 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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Um...did you just admit that contraception and abortion are related there, Alex? ;)


13 posted on 08/04/2011 9:13:51 AM PDT by Claud
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I believe that many people recognize instinctively, if not consciously, that abortion is almost universally a symptom of unchastity. The Catholic Church is the only religious body that has authoritative, complete, rational, and consistent teaching about chastity. This virtue is not universally observed, of course, any more than other virtues always are, but it is stated, by the Catholic Church, in terms that fully rational and well-intentioned persons cannot dismiss.


14 posted on 08/04/2011 9:17:43 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Do you know why I love reptiles? It's because they don't play guitars.)
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well, it’s natural. Which church group in the West has consistently stuck to its beliefs? No matter what tides come in one way or the other?


15 posted on 08/04/2011 9:20:42 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Natural Law; NYer

doesn’t matter — we’re not here to be liked. We must keep on telling the world that accepting homosexual acts is wrong, abortion is wrong, etc. etc. — we’ll get continuously hit for this, but that’s to be expected


16 posted on 08/04/2011 9:22:44 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: xzins
vast majority, but that's not good enough. We got to keep telling this message not only to those outside the faith but reinforcing it within the faith. Over and over again.

We are called to duty and the problem is when we focus on preaching to non-Christians and forgetting to preach to ourselves

17 posted on 08/04/2011 9:24:52 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Elendur

I just cannot understand the logic that killing a baby is acceptable in the liberal world.


18 posted on 08/04/2011 9:26:45 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

You phrased that perfectly. Could not have been more accurate. Thank you.


19 posted on 08/04/2011 9:27:22 AM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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IOW, if one candidate is pro-job and another is pro-life, there’s this logic that says that’s an even trade off.

That's the result of the 'Seamless Garment' gang. I forget if it was Bernadin or Weakland that started it.

20 posted on 08/04/2011 9:45:06 AM PDT by nina0113
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