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To: FromTheSidelines

On the contrary, marriage was working in America as perfect as any system ever devised, in the history of the world—for freedom, creativity, equality—no other government was as successful for creating such wealth and freedom for such a diverse group of people....why? Tocqueville said it best and I don’t have the time to retell his conclusions to why America was so great but this is partly why:

It was because of the devotion of women to raising their children (unlike the French, whom Tocqueville said that French men would never discuss their women with other men because those men might know their spouse better than them-—in other words...women in America were more faithful and it was entirely because of the Christian paradigm and a Bible in most every house hold.

Tocqueville: America was great because America is good. He was referring to the Christian paradigm and design of the family and extended family...such a support system which gave men the freedom to do great things and think up great things. Division of labor.....the thing Communist feminists have been trying to destroy since the seventies. Family. Why—because the division of labor and the family being responsible for the education of the young-—teaching them to read with the Bible—like Lincoln.
It created individualism, self-sufficiency, a support structure other than government. It was freedom to raise your children with your own worldview—an ideology where sacrifice was important and immediate gratification could be delayed for more important things. There was meaning to life, since, of course, God put you on earth for a reason.

So why is it not working????? Because of the insertion of the Prussian design of mass forced schooling to destroy the morality of the children—create mass conformity, destroy individualism and the “thinkers outside the box” by taking kids away from the family unit, and sticking them into mass indoctrination factories, which are designed to destroy their “fixed beliefs”. (BK Eakman)

This is intentional....Dewey was a socialist and he wanted forced schooling for younger kids (they want to be god and design human beings to do what the state wants (J.S. Mills)-Take away young children from loving parents so they can “resocialized” and conditioned them to be slaves—just do what they are told....is exactly what schools condition them to do....raise your hand and wait to be called on..... (Dewey threw out the God-centered McGuffey Readers...killing the Christian paradigm of moral absolutes....a value system where there is Absolute Truth, which Allan Bloom writes about extensively in The Closing of the American Mind.

The Pope also writes about this “Age of Relativism” —the Marxist ideology posited into the school system and controlling media, esp. Hollywood starting in the 30’s with few exceptions.

Undgerground History of American Education by Gatto is another good book that tells of the stealth destruction of morality in people so that Marxist ideology could redesign the “family” to destroy all biological connections—because Marcuse et al. knew to take control over America they had to destroy the family unit and Christianity...the two things which created individualism and a support system which defies intrusive government.

What did they do first...inject Kinseyian ideas, The Beats, etc—Rockefeller and Carnegie Foundations and others paid to elevate trash into culture and the university—and kick out the Classical Education—that which taught Honor and Truth—all the virtues which led to the most successful relationships (and happiness).

They elevated evil—The Beats—whose books were vulgar and vile—Burroughs had hanging boys with erections being sodomized —ideas as vulgar as that and worse being given “prizes” with Marxist professors glorifying it and demoting Milton and Dickens and those “evil” white men. Ayn Rand commented at the time....there is such dedication to the destruction of values. It was everywhere (Germany’s Weimar Republic in 1919—same thing) in America by the 60’s and by the 70’s standards continued to elevate things which divide people and destroy relationships.

Then they created no-fault divorce to destroy marriages which destroys the ability of children to form long term relationships. Children of divorce are far more likely to divorce—so it became exponential. Divorce was very low until after the 60’s and the promotion through hollywood of divorcees as being glamorous and beautiful and ideal. Hollywood constantly glamourizes dysfunctional behaviors as being good and fathers as being bigots and dummies—starting with Archie Bunker.

Marketing of Evil tells also of the deliberate destruction of worldview to the atheist German Postmodernism one. It is intentional, been going on for a hundred years, actually, and is designed to destroy the family unit, so that children are easily manipulated and people have no support structure to oppose the state. People need emotional support of family—it is where all happiness originates....take that away and you have no design in human nature—no God—no meaning to life...except the immediate physical sensations—feel good do it which always destroys societies.

Theodore Dalrymple writes extensively about the destruction of the family unit in England (intentional by welfare system and elite theories (marxism) that has ruined the support system of the children and if the children manage to live....they are addicts, gang members or some other drain on society.

Charles Manson is someone who never knew his father and was not protected in childhood. He was abused and sodomized....which happens when there are not two parents to help each other out in the caring for children—strangers are employed to watch over the precious human beings that need to learn empathy, compassion and trust by parents consistently being there for years.

Easy divorce is how Lenin ruined Russia...he took women out of the house and invented day care for his mass indoctrination of toddlers to have total control designed by Pavlov of there worldview. The emotion damage still exists, because of this separation....there is absolutely no trust between the people. The ability of mass exterminations is because of the lack of compassion that children receive in early childhood. Mansions are created in early childhood.

Trust is formed in the formative years of a child. If they have no stable relationships or a mother that flakes out they will be unable to trust. (Piaget, Erikson, Freud).

Study the effect of Romanian orphanages. Humans need a loving, caring adults—preferably a man and a woman so they can learn to relate to all people and model a healthy relationship where it is easiest to flourish.


32 posted on 07/30/2011 7:30:24 PM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: savagesusie

Hmmm....

So the moral fiber of individuals is what made marriage work. And the Government intrusion into education is what is breaking down the family, destroying that fiber.

And you don’t see a problem with Government intruding into marriage? If it’s destroyed the moral fiber of America, and the educational system, what makes you think it won’t destroy the concept of marriage - just like it’s doing now?


33 posted on 07/30/2011 7:46:21 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: savagesusie

You can always make a good point by quoting de Tocqueville. I have been kicking around the idea of writing a book on the worldwide cultural effect of ancient French religion (Caesar to Mao), and at the base is the hatred that the French have toward marriage: the ancient goddesses were Arduinna and Rosemerta. Arduinna was called Diana by Caesar, and Rosemerta was Venus. However, Rosemerta was a goddess who hated her husband and every marriage (a proto-NOW member?); thus, the Gauls worshiped virgins and whores.

The relation to the France of de Tocqueville’s day and today is fairly obvious. I also agree that the loosening of marriage legally has led to a rapid change in American morality generally. Tightening the laws may not make us more religious, but at least it will help keep from disaster those who have trouble controlling themselves.


41 posted on 07/30/2011 8:59:29 PM PDT by mrreaganaut (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: savagesusie

Excellent post. Unfortunately ‘Tocqueville: America was great because America is good’ is a hoax quotation dating to 1941.


42 posted on 07/30/2011 9:00:32 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Liberty and Union, Now and Forever, One and Inseparable -- Daniel Webster)
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