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To: Mr. Lucky

Cannot the Catholics restrain from calling all the apostles “Catholic”?


25 posted on 07/27/2011 7:53:41 AM PDT by bibletruth
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To: bibletruth
The word catholic, meaning "universal" ) comes from the Greek phrase καθόλου (kath'holou), meaning "on the whole," the Apostles belonged to the ONE Holy UNIVERSAL Church of Christ.
27 posted on 07/27/2011 8:02:52 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: bibletruth

Some “Christian” YOU are....

Pick a fight, then blame the people you picked it with.

No wonder the pagans can’t help linking “Christian” with “hypocrite.”


33 posted on 07/27/2011 8:26:59 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: bibletruth

They are considered saints and martyrs of the Catholic church, as are all early Christians who died for the Word. Catholics revere them for their sacrifices and what they can teach us about how to live our faith. This does not detract from their Jewishness in any way. It is wrong for you to suggest otherwise. Our deep respect for the saints and martyrs is why we name our children after them instead of naming the kidlets after jewelry stores and mountains (Tiffany; Dakota).


58 posted on 07/27/2011 5:42:47 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: bibletruth; Elendur

“Catholic” is just a word meaning “universal,” which I why I always refer to Roman Catholics as ROMAN Catholics, or just “Romanists.”

Referring to themselves as just “Catholic” is personally insulting to me, and every other Protestant and non-Romanist believer in Christ, because it implies that they are in the universal Church and we are not.

Historically you cannot see a Pope-of-Rome-as-the-one-Vicar-of-Christ claim until at least the 6th or 7th Century—so the idea that the organization of the “Roman Catholic Church” as constituted for the last thousand years or so, going back to the 1st Century is laughable.

Originally there were 5 Archbishops representing the 5 most important cities for Christians in the ancient world: Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria, Constantinople and Rome. After the fall of the Roman Empire, the Bishop of Rome rose to prominence as the most important bishop of the (formally) most important city of the world. His centralizing organizing influence for orthodoxy was very important in the ensuing chaos of the (so called) Dark Ages.

The Bishop of Rome’s allegiance with very powerful and wealthy governing authorities though, very soon brought about the corruption associated with great wealth and power...

This corruption, along with growing power, continued increasing throughout the Middle Ages culminating with the Great Schism (with the other 4 Christian popes of the cities of Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria, and Constantinople—making up the Eastern Orthodox Church) in AD 1054 and into the Babylonian Captivity (when there were 3 Roman popes...all claiming legitimacy) of the 1400s.

Finally in 1517, a certain German monk had the guts to nail 95 Theses to the Castle Church door in Wittenberg, and he wasn’t burned to death (as previous reformers had been...) and we had the Protestant Reformation.


62 posted on 07/27/2011 9:15:32 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: bibletruth

Shirley you jest.


70 posted on 07/27/2011 10:47:00 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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