Posted on 07/16/2011 7:24:33 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
In response to whether the public should vote for a Mormon for president, one should know what beliefs a candidate had.
Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman have Mormon roots and they have been vague about their beliefs and loyalty to the LDS church.
Mormon theology includes ideas like their priesthood brethren will become the government leaders, or future kings of the world, in a globalized theocracy, and that their male leaders will take over when a second coming of Christ occurs. They believe they are the pre-ordained leaders to rule over a coming theocratic kingdom.
Worthy Mormon males are temple attending, dressing in white with special learned handshakes, altar rituals, Masonic rites and gestures and do secretive activities different from normal society.
They believe they are the future gods of new worlds in a life after this one. They follow prophets with ever-changing doctrine and change their fictional "Book of Mormon" every time it is found to be un-politically correct.
Their women are taught they are good for breeding, to have large families.
A member of this cult is loyal to its church leaders and to whatever their modern prophets tell them is gospel, which changes at their will.
They claim to be Christian, but Mormon polytheism of many gods/goddesses in a hereafter, rituals that must be performed in their temples, garment wearing and works (not grace) that saves a person is different ideology.
It is debatable whether Mormons are Christians, and they have other scriptures special to Mormonism written by their leaders, not just the New Testament, like their Doctrine and Covenants and Book of Mormon.
To learn about them and their practices, beliefs and personal character will help us determine whether they are the future leaders of Americans. Or are they really stuck in their controversial past?
No he didn't, in 1924 the democrats got 29% of the total vote against 54% republican, and in 1928 Catholic Democrat Al Smith got 41% to the republicans 58%, so my guess would be that his Protestant vote improved over the previous election.
if it comes down to a choice between zero and romney, i need to vote to save my country from it’s current downward slide. i am not worried about mormon theology politically, i am worried about their theology theologically.
BTW, it is far worse than not knowing ‘the church once taught that’. What the founder of this new religion euphemistically called ‘The Latter Day Saints’ taught is so heretical that one wonders why LDS inc now wants to try and pretend they are a Christian sect? And if the founder taught such heresies on whom God is and Whom Jesus is, how can anything be inspired from this false prophet, sexual predator of married women, peepstone conman?
i have never read a harsh word from reaganaut against the Catholic Faith or Church.
If it comes down to a choice between barry and the Mittiac, the real problem will be turnout. Romney will lose and sadly, not enough conservatives will go vote in order to take over veto-proof Seante and overwhelming control of the House. I could be satisfied with Barry in the White Hut, IF the Senate was veto proof and the House overwhelmingly non-Democrat. If Huntsman was his veep, impeachment might remove barry and put Huntsman in the Oval Office ... and I could live with that is Seante and HOuse are able tostem the socialist tides.
I would not think it a good idea for such a person to be nominated, however, because of what would inevitably follow from the MSM exposé of LDS to all of America.
THAT would not be good for the LDS, it would not be good for conservatives, and it would not be good for America.
If Barry is reelected, his party will hold the Senate.
if Catholic aren’t “Christian”, i guess you believe there weren’t any Christians on earth before the 16th century?
Romney might lose, but it won’t be do to me. Don’t get me wrong, i would rather our nominee be Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, even T-Paw before Romney. You will never veto proof Senate and House, we need the presidency.
Read that post 99 again, no wonder you spport Romney.
It is important for me to point out the Catholic church’s position on Mormonism because so many Catholics are devoted defenders of Mormonism and Romney.
Many Catholics do not seem to realized that the Catholic church teaches that Mormonism is not a Christian religion.
i agree with you and appreciate your spreading the word. i had two nice young mormon missionaries at my door three weeks ago and spent about 20 minutes explaining to them why they aren’t Christian. the way they reacted, i may have been the first one to tell them that!!
read my posts again, where do i state i support Romney? i said i would vote for him over zero, does that mmake me a Romney “supporter”?
, if it were Mike Lee, Bay Buchanan or Glenn Beck running against Rudy Giuliani or George Pataki, who would you side with?
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None of them...
But thats what you knew I would say...
Thats part of being a Conservative...
Having the guts to say ther truth and what you believe
and not what you think will make you look good...
When a poster shows up on Mormon and Romney threads to counter other posters by saying that ‘I personally will accept Romney and vote for him’, then of course that is supporting him, it is delivered as a rebuttal to his critics, to tell freepers that it is perfectly OK to push back and ignore the anti-Romney sentiment here.
Rallying the Mormon base wont be easy for Reid, despite his shared religion. Reid has an uneasy, sometimes contentious relationship with some members of his church. An appearance by Reid at a Mormon chapel this year had to be canceled after members expressed anger over him potentially using the venue to gather votes.NV Full Election Results:
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A 2009 survey conducted by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life found that nearly 65 percent of Mormons are Republican or Republican leaning. Thats 15 percentage points higher than members of evangelical churches and 30 points higher than the general population. Only 22 percent of Mormons said they are Democrats.
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To be sure, there are Mormons who support Reid, but they seem to be the minority, at least among members who openly share their political preferences.
His victory was powered by overwhelming support from minority voters, an Associated Press analysis of preliminary exit poll results found. He bested Angle among all nonwhite voters surveyed, including about two-thirds of Hispanics, about eight in 10 blacks and about three-quarters of Asians.And here is the definitive election exit poll data; they didn't even ask about religion, but if you look at where Reid got his vote, it isn't from demographics that would tend mormon. For example, Angle won the college graduate vote: CNN Exit Polls
I can find no definitive information that says Reid got more mormon votes than Angle did; unless you have a direct citation, I would suggest my three citations indicate that it was not the case.
BTW, in the first article, you'll find an interesting quote where someone suggests that Angle could beat Romney in a Utah election.
While I am sure many share your opinion of the prophet, seer, and revelator, I would vote for a conservative for President who held to LDS beliefs.
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That same so called “prophet, seer, and revelator” had an abortionist on speed dial so he could hardly have been consideered a conservative...
Although he did run for POTUS in 1844...
and he did hold LDS beliefs...
Polygamy, warts and all....
R I am still looking for that article I read after the election. I know its on the computer, nothing is ever really gone.
may i suggest you take a logic course if one is offered to you?
let me help you:
if my leg is caught under a boat and i have the choice of either cutting off my leg or drowning under the boat, i will choose to cut my leg off. if someone accuses me of wanting to cut my leg off, this would be an incorrect statement. if i am given a choice between zero and romney, i will vote for romney. if someone accuses me therefore of being a romney supporter, this would be an incorrect statement.
logic my friend, logic.
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