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To: Cronos

You linked to nothing by him. Point out the pages you are referring to, since it isn’t in the table of contents, and I have no reason to go searching for Elliott’s garbage. Also, the OPC has 30,000 members. Look, Paul Elliott is a guy who will claim anyone is a heretic just because they disagree with him, and they make garbage up about them. We were actually joking about him last night at a church barbeque. If anyone is a heretic, it’s Paul Elliott for being exhibit A on the effects of legalism.

I was simply pointing out that going by the word of one witness, no matter who it is, even if it is the most trustworthy human on the planet, is ridiculous. The Mosaic Law, for instance, requires two witnesses for even a hearing to be granted (Deut. 19:15). Jesus Himself, who, if anyone had the right to, would be the one who could witness about Himself, had multiple witnesses for this very reason. If you are going to bring a charge, do it lawfully, and it might get a hearing.


69 posted on 07/11/2011 1:34:56 PM PDT by RecoveringPaulisto
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To: RecoveringPaulisto
the ex-Ruling Elder of the OrthodoxPresbyterian (OPC), Paul Elliot wrote on the Trinity website
the Report continues the conspiracy of silence that has prevailed in the OPC for three decades. It leaves the erroneous impression that the serious doctrinal problems are outside the denomination, not within it. The Report gives false comfort to those who think the OPC is still a bastion of Biblical orthodoxy. On the contrary, the Report, and the 2006 General Assembly’s commendation of it, both maintain the OPC as a safe haven for those who teach error

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Men within the OPC, including at least one member of the Committee itself, teach heresy regarding the Gospel and many other fundamentals of the faith.
you can read the details at the link on page 109 why the Former Orthodox Presbyterian Church (OPC) ruling elder Paul M. Elliott says that

Why does a former ruling elder of the OPC say that? Well, he gives his reasons in his book about the heresy that he believes the OPC is following and he is urging every OPCer to leave. You can read it too if you want -- and if you disagree with him, he's given his posting and email address in the book. accordingly.

The author’s thesis is that the Orthodox Presbyterian Church (OPC) is today exactly where the PCUSA was back then

73 posted on 07/11/2011 2:00:40 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: RecoveringPaulisto
Remember, this is not just one man, but one of many who have left. The fact that he is an ex-ruling elder of this small 10,000 adult organization that is just 80 years since it's creation by Machen does not bode wel

From Trinity Lectures Foundation

Despite the painstaking efforts of many fine Christians within the Orthodox Presbyterian Church (OPC), the leaders of the OPC maintain a suicidal course. Despite the departure of congregations and individuals from the OPC, due to the leaders' collective inability to resolve the current justification controversy Biblically, the OPC leaders continue to advance doctrines that contradict Scripture. The OPC is, in the words of its late historian Charles Dennison, "obviously inept, bumbling, [and] confused."1 That confusion now appears to be fatal.

At this point in its history, the confessional affirmations of the OPC have no more credibility than the confessional affirmations of the PCUSA from 1936 to 1967. One of the commissioners to the 2004 OPC General Assembly made this very point: "There was a time when, if the OPC said it, it was accepted. The 2003 deliverance that accompanied the decision to acquit [John Kinnaird] destroyed forever that our words will not be questioned. The PCUSA always said that the [Westminster] Confession was their confession (even as they were denying it)."

74 posted on 07/11/2011 2:04:52 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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