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“Of Gods and Men” and John Corapi (Catholic Caucus)
The Anchoress ^ | July 9, 2011 | Elizabeth Scalia

Posted on 07/09/2011 11:50:48 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 07/09/2011 11:50:52 AM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
As one poster to Corapi's video commented: "Father or should I call you that, since you left the priesthood. Your new look scares me."

Prayers continue for this priest.

2 posted on 07/09/2011 11:53:28 AM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

I don’t know if new look scares me (kind of does)..but the whole thing makes me sad ..what has happened to Fr Corapi? I pray for him and all priests..


3 posted on 07/09/2011 12:03:26 PM PDT by aimee5291
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To: aimee5291
what has happened to Fr Corapi?

When you persistently attack the prince of darkness through books, videos and conferences, the prince fights back. Pray .... very hard ... for Fr. Corapi and all priests. Pray too for those who have been rocked and scandalized by this turn of events. Never underestimate the power of the enemy.

4 posted on 07/09/2011 12:08:08 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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I noticed in a description of the film, it said that it’s “loosely based” on the the lives of the monks.
What’s ‘loose’ about it?


5 posted on 07/09/2011 12:13:14 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

I don’t know. It seemed pretty accurate to me, from what I knew about them. They lived an authentic Trappist life, although in the Charles de Foucauld mold, that is, trying to convert the Muslims silently, through their charity and witness.

Perhaps it simply means that nobody knows what their last days or hours were like and therefore it can’t be said to be totally historically accurate.


6 posted on 07/09/2011 12:36:13 PM PDT by livius
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To: NYer

“When you persistently attack the prince of darkness through books, videos and conferences, the prince fights back. Pray .... very hard ... for Fr. Corapi and all priests. Pray too for those who have been rocked and scandalized by this turn of events. Never underestimate the power of the enemy.”

Very good post.

Hence the prayer, “Keep me humble Lord, keep me small and hide me within your Sacred Heart.”

The moment any one of us, and especially those who have been given a great calling by God, step outside that protection, we are vulnerable.

Pray for Fr. Corapi.


7 posted on 07/09/2011 12:56:02 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: NYer

I just got this movie in the mail. I’ll be watching it tonight.


8 posted on 07/09/2011 1:20:23 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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He gave up such a great treasure for trinkets. When he moved to Montana he was pretty much done for.

Still not to late for him to submit to authority and lead a life of quiet prayer. He, like many addictive personalities, needs structure for his own good. He needs spiritual and psychiatric help. I hope he gets both.

9 posted on 07/09/2011 1:22:46 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: NYer

“As one poster to Corapi’s video commented: “Father or should I call you that, since you left the priesthood. Your new look scares me.” Prayers continue for this priest”

Yes, it’s a painful, gruesome display. He seems to be shutting out the Lord and the Blessed Mother (maybe can’t bear to think of them while continuing on this sorry path).

Prayers for Fr. Corapi.


10 posted on 07/09/2011 1:37:44 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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... to live a life without confreres, without accountability, without hearing, “no” once in a while or having to confer with a community rather than calling all of his own shots ...

And in my alternate reality, I'm an old maid with catz and an occasional new pair of shoes.

Every Christian vocation is simply a variant on laying down your life, over and over, for people that you really wish you didn't have to, because it's not like they'd do it for you. Yeah, it hurts ... but it's the only way.

11 posted on 07/09/2011 2:09:49 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("This is a revolution, damn it! We're going to have to offend somebody!" ~ John Adams)
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To: arkady_renko; aimee5291; OpusatFR; livius
He gave up such a great treasure for trinkets.

What comes to mind is Matthew 4:8-9

Then the devil took him up to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in their magnificence,
and he said to him, "All these I shall give to you, if you will prostrate yourself and worship me."

Among the lengthy list of quotes by Fr. Corapi, is this one: "The only thing satan cannot deal with is humility. It is totally against his nature." Humility is the opposite of pride. Nearly everything we have learned about the situation with Fr. Corapi over the past few weeks, points to an accumulation of wealth - cars, boats, et al. Then he explains that he wants to sue his accuser and to do so entails leaving his order and abandoning the priesthood. Is this not a manifestation of pride?!

Here is another Fr. Corapi quote: "The one who sins becomes the slave of sin." and "Sin is cancer, it eats a person up." We are all human and, as such, weak in nature. Fr. Corapi is no different. Who can ever forget hearing him describe the day of his ordination!! - at the Vatican!! - by Blessed John Paul II!! We were told that Fr. Corapi was given the gift of "Apostolic preaching" and, as such, utilized it to draw catholics deeper into a relationship with Jesus Christ and the Blessed Mother. In his video, he "prides" himself on this gift that he plans to use by exploiting the social media - Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc. But what will be his message? He does not reveal that. If anything, I get the impression he himself does not know. He "prides" himself on telling viewers that his autobiography is nearly finished. At this point in time, given the fact he has left the priesthood, of what value is it to a devout catholic? (I am presuming the autobiography includes his conversion story and his studies to become a priest).

This is a man very much conflicted. It is apparent from his garb and inability to look directly into the camera. He is wearing a Harley Davidson jacket. When Bishop Hubbard closed 5 of 6 parishes in a nearby community, the poorly catechized and angry catholics took shelter in a local evangelical church. Their minister also wears Harley Davidson attire.

What concerns me most about this situation, however, are those people who were drawn into the Catholic Church from watching his EWTN program on the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and those catholics, in communities such as mine that are shepherded by progressive bishops, who looked up to Fr. Corapi as the voice of orthodox teaching, calling the church's children back home. In yet another quote he says: "We don't come to you preaching worldly wisdom, we come to preach Jesus Christ and the Cross." That is the message that drew the flocks to this shepherd. What is the impact on them from his scandalous behavior? Therein lies the worst sin of all!

I will end this post with another quote from Fr. Corapi: "St. Francis said to the sinful priest, after kissing his feet, "All I know is that your hands bring me Jesus Christ, I know nothing else."" Please remember this priest in your daily prayers!

12 posted on 07/09/2011 2:26:51 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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I'm sitting here in perfect sadness after watching his video. I remember him in a gray habit teaching the Catechism. Twinkle in his eye. Joy obvious in his soul.

I will confess to anger over his antics since he moved to Montana, now I would really plead with him to humble himself under the merciful hand of God and repent. He is set up to lead souls astray.

13 posted on 07/09/2011 3:05:17 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: NYer

good post ..explains a lot...

I pray for Fr C and all priests and religious..


14 posted on 07/09/2011 3:11:16 PM PDT by aimee5291
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To: arkady_renko

We are all sad, for him, for ourselves and for the Church.

Our Blessed Mother saved him once before and now we must follow her call to pray, pray, pray.

May the Good Lord bring him home again.


15 posted on 07/09/2011 4:24:05 PM PDT by Jvette
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I hope those who are still blindly defending him come to realize they are causing him grave harm. They are reminding me of some sort of cult and it isn’t healthy.


16 posted on 07/09/2011 4:31:31 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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Lack of humility explains it all. The Devil like a roaring lion...

People who do not have the protection of an authority structure or something that keeps them humble are virtually bound to fall.

The Church stopped providing the authority structure back in the 1970s, and it’s been bad news since then.

The other problem is that with the increasing Protestantization of the Catholic Church, the faithful have been taught to look to individual preachers rather than to the body of doctrine and faith and history that is the Church.

This could be a perfect moment to fight back. Opus Dei priests are very good at rejecting the cult of personality, and perhaps we need to consult with el Opus to find out how to deal with this. They are very devout and very popular, but they never set themselves up individually as something people should follow after. The whole focus is on Christ.

This was how it used to be in the Church. I think one of the first celebrity priests was Thomas Merton, whose order gave him all sorts of breaks and essentially let him live outside the rule and at his own whim because he brought a lot of money into the monastery. His death may or may not have been accidental, but whatever it was, his life at that point was going downhill and there are many people who thought he was going to leave the Church and strike out on his own as a sort of guru.

That’s what happens when authority and order break down. We’ve got to use this moment to bring them back.


17 posted on 07/09/2011 4:43:56 PM PDT by livius
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You’re right, and I do worry about people who were converted by him. I hope they are not scandalized.


18 posted on 07/09/2011 4:45:36 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

All excellent points! Thanks for the ping and post.


19 posted on 07/09/2011 5:01:54 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: livius
I do worry about people who were converted by him. I hope they are not scandalized.

So do I, but we can only pray for them that their faith is solely based in Jesus, and not in the one who brought them to Him.

20 posted on 07/09/2011 5:19:13 PM PDT by SuziQ
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