Posted on 07/09/2011 11:27:26 AM PDT by armydoc
For residents of Rome, the sight of courting priests is hardly an anomaly. But a recent exposé is rocking the Catholic Church.
In the basement dining room of Le Mani In Pasta, a trattoria in central Rome, a young, glossy-eyed couple stare at each other across a table for two. They smile and blush over a private joke. There is no handholding or kissing, but they are clearly more than friends, even though they are both wearing dark shirts and the telltale white clerical collar.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...
Then it will no longer be the One,True Church. This will create a huge schism that has been predicted for quite a while now.
Must be nice to live in your head with Peter Pan and the Easter bunny.....
As Catholic I am an avowed member of anti marriage equality, anti homosexual love, mean spirited, hateful, bigoted, and heterosexist evil empire, are you a member yet?
Anyway, I suggest you review this recent document that directly is on point (did newsweek mention it?). This was published not as new teaching but to reinforce what has always been known and taught. It is true that leftism and depravity has invaded all institutions including the Church. After reading then point me in the direction of anything comparable as far as clarity in any other Christian 'religion'.
small excerpt:
IntroductionIn continuity with the teaching of the Second Vatican Council and, in particular, with the Decree Optatam Totius[1] on priestly formation, the Congregation for Catholic Education has published various Documents with the aim of promoting a suitable, integral formation of future priests, by offering guidelines and precise norms regarding its diverse aspects.[2] In the meantime, the 1990 Synod of Bishops also reflected on the formation of priests in the circumstances of the present day, with the intention of bringing to completion the doctrine of the Council on this theme and making it more explicit and effective in today's world. Following this Synod, Pope John Paul II published the Post-Synodal Apostolic Exhortation Pastores Dabo Vobis.
In light of this abundant teaching, the present Instruction does not intend to dwell on all questions in the area of affectivity and sexuality that require an attentive discernment during the entire period of formation. Rather, it contains norms concerning a specific question, made more urgent by the current situation, and that is: whether to admit to the seminary and to holy orders candidates who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies.
Do you understand what a vow is? They choose or they choose not. Very simple concept.
Deal with reality.
“That viewpoint isn’t going to go over well with the Catholic crowd around I fear.”
We know what needs to be done and why certain actions occurred.
If we chose not to share our thoughts with a bunch of chortling ninnies who jump on every Catholic thread to gloat, well, I think that is understandable.
“The “gay priest” website remains”
You’ve checked that info?
In the original Newsweek article, the phrase "rocking the Church" was used in quite a different sense, as when a boxer is "rocked" by a punch and disoriented. Perhaps staggered, rendered unconscious or knocked out.
IOW, Newsweek was expecting some serious damage to the Church. Not rejoicing at the prospect or eagerly awaiting it, of course. No, no, no........perish the thought. Such a thing would be beneath a publication of the caliber of Newsweek.
I think that the passage of 12 months, allows us to put things in perspective and ask just how much the Church was rocked in that sense. The purification is ongoing, the de-lavenderization will take some time but the Church will emerge from this trial stronger and more evangelical. Counter-intuitive to the naysayers but the Church is not a human construct.
As it turns out, none. Same as any moron that calls himself Catholic (Mel Gibson's dad e.g.).
Sorry, no. The homosexuals who molested the altar boys aren't looking to get married. What will stop this is a rigid return to the Church's prohibition of gays in the priesthood.
I'd be happy to drive 35 miles every Sunday past a multitude of closed or dying parishes to be ministered to by a straight orthodox holy Catholic priest.
Oh wait...never mind...I already do.
He is a bishop, among other bishops.
I belonged to ELCA affiliated Lutheran Church. When the ELCA did the job on human sexuality policy our congregation split. We left the building and took the senior Pastor with us. We worship weekly in a rented facility. We feel that we have been very blessed because of this.
And you most probably are. We have a hierarchy that is a hierarchy of bishops and the situation is that they are equals. It is not a military hierarchy in which we have a chief of the armed forces which commands absolutely. It is a lot more tenuous than that. Why do you think that so many bishops can depart so far from the Faith?
What is a Catholic Parish to do if they know their Priest is gay?
Ah, that is different. They can go and choke the living sh*t out of their bishop until he removes the priest. I've done similar...
It appears that you true Catholics will have to make some sort of personal choice at some point.
Many of us have already. I doubt that there is an individual that will f**k with my kids in this entire diocese, for instance.
I believe the Catholic church controls Catholic churches, but the SBC doesn’t control churches that use the word Baptist in their name.
The great majority of Baptists are not Southern Baptist, and I don’t think that even the Southern Baptist churches have any authority that rules over them.
The problem is that the Church is not a military dictatorship. The Pope is a bishop, among bishops and the authority is not quite as clear cut as that either.
The great majority of Baptists are not Southern Baptist, and I don’t think that even the Southern Baptist churches have any authority that rules over them.
And the Church, while it has authority over individuals in the Church, has to work through the bishops. And if the individual bishops are, shall we say, departing from the Faith, it is a long process to correcting it. That is the history of the Church, going back to the first Councils. They were only called in response to persistent and obvious heresies. That is why the Councils reacted many decades after any occurances.
I don’t know what your point in posting to me is, or why you keep talking about individuals.
To begin with, you posted to me and replied, so I thought that you were interested in dialogue. Secondly, I thought that you were interesting in the workings of the Church vis a vis the hierarchy. If I was wrong and you actually were interested in the geology of the Mohave Desert, then I apologize.
When I read Quis Custodiet's post, I took him to mean that ending the celibacy requirement would not be for the benefit of the current priests, but would be to eliminate the cause that has led to such a small, contaminated hiring pool.
Post 64 was a well written post.
I asked you a very simple question, why would Southern Baptists have any thing to do with Westboro, Westboro isn’t even Southern Baptist.
Actually, I acknowledged way back up post that Westboro was not SBC, thanks to an informed poster. I think that 'simple' does not pertain to your question, necessarily.
Sounds like an even harder battle than what is going on in
the reformed churches because of such deeply connected traditional roots. IMHO. I.E. the Pope,the Vatican, ETC. On the individual basis sounds like your doing fine.
It was very simple.
“What authority would the SBC have over that little 80 member family cult, what relationship do they have?”
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