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Freemason Persecution of Catholics in Mexico [Catholic Caucus]
Various | July 7, 2011 | Various

Posted on 07/08/2011 7:56:10 PM PDT by topher

Source URL's used/referenced: -- In particular, the heading Cristero War: Anticlerical [Anti-Catholic] legislation enactment -- Painted by a Heavenly Hand

In the 1920s and 1930s, the infamous Calles Persecution occurred in Mexico. During this time, Freemasons tried to bomb the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe. The bomb did go off, but not even the glass was cracked, which was not bullet proof and very thin [supernatural protection, apparently]. A 5 foot brass cross on the altar was not as fortunate. The tremendous force of the blast caused the cross to be curved.

Many Roman Catholic priests were martyred during the Calles Persecution, including Blessed Miguel Pro.

In the book Mexican Martyrs, written by a Jesuit, there is the story that after one Mexican official executed a Catholic priest, he ate part of the Catholic priest for dinner. Such was the barbaric nature of the persecution of the Catholic Church by Freemasons in the 1920's and 1930's in Mexico.

From: Painted by a Heavenly Hand:

Testifying equally powerfully to the image’s supernatural origins is its miraculous preservation in the face of numerous unfortunate circumstances and events throughout its centuries-old history. In 1791, while cleaning the image’s silver frame, a worker accidentally spilled an entire bottle of nitric acid over the image. To his great surprise and enormous relief the acid did not leave the slightest trace. In the 1920s, during the bloody persecutions of the Church under Plutarco Calles, thousands of priests were condemned to death merely for carrying out their priestly duties. The atheist Masonic regime closed down all the churches in Mexico except for the Basilica in Guadalupe. Nevertheless, the enemies of the Church devised a diabolic plan to destroy the image of Our Lady and kill most of the members of the hierarchy. On 14 November 1921 government agents hid a powerful time bomb in a flower vase under the miraculous image. The bomb exploded at 10:30 in the midst of a Pontifical Mass. The powerful explosion rocked the entire Basilica, destroying the floor, marble altar and stained glass windows. Miraculously no one was killed. A few people suffered minor wounds only. When the dust settled after the explosion, it turned out that the image had emerged untouched. A massive metal crucifix—bent out of shape—had shielded it from the force of the explosion.

However, this description might be inaccurate, as the bomb was between the crucifix and Our Lady of Guadalupe. It was the back of the crucifix that was bent.

The force should have cracked the glass at the least and definitely destroyed the image. Yet the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe remained unscathed.

TOPICS: Catholic
KEYWORDS: calles; cristeros; elizabethstleger; freemason; freemasonry; freemasons; guadalupe; hellfireclubs; mason; masons; stleger
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This article is in response to posting that Freemasonry is friendly to Roman Catholics. Freemasonry has been very Anti-Catholic, for the most part. Though there is hostility towards Roman Catholics by Freemasons in the United Stated, there is not the history of killing Roman Catholics that has occurred in other countries. These countries include France, Italy, Mexico, Portugal, as well as other countries.

There was a Freemason persecution of the Catholic Church occurring when Our Lady of Fatima appeared in Portugal in 1917.

1 posted on 07/08/2011 7:56:19 PM PDT by topher
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To: topher

Viva Cristo ReyQ

it's happening today all over the muslim world, and who is aligned with the muslims, the marxists/socialists whosell them arms.

2 posted on 07/08/2011 8:00:51 PM PDT by Coleus (Adult Stem Cells Work, there is NO Need to Harvest Babies for Their Body Parts!)
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To: topher
Hmm, the part that's hardest to believe is that there were Freemasons in Mexico.

There actually were Communists and bandits ~ lots of bandits ~ still lots of bandits and one of the major political parties is certainly Communist influenced even today.

But hasn't the regime always been very suspicious of outside influences ~ like since Cortes showed up?

3 posted on 07/08/2011 8:02:29 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I think it was mostly reds who caused the anti-church movement and the killing of priests and nuns. At one point the leftist President of Mexico was assassinated. Such things could come to this land. How many would fight to secure religious freedom in the US?

4 posted on 07/08/2011 8:07:34 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: topher
From the Marian Movement of Priests that Freemasonry is the black beast like a leopard that is referenced in the book of Revelation:

[Message from Our Lady to Father Stefan Gobb]i:

"I am weeping because the Church is continuing along the road of division, of loss of the true faith, of apostasy and of errors which are being spread more and more without anyone offering opposition to them. Even now, that which I predicted at Fatima and that which I have revealed here in the third message confided to a little daughter of mine (i.e. Sister Lucia) is in the process of being accomplished. And so, even for the Church the moment of its great trial has come, because the man of iniquity will establish himself within it and the abomination of desolation will enter into the holy temple of God." (To the Priests, Our Lady's Beloved Sons, No. 362, September 15, 1987, p. 572.)

"The black beast like a leopard indicates Freemasonry; the beast with the two horns like a lamb indicates Freemasonry infiltrated into the interior of the Church, that is to say, ecclesiastical Masonry, which has spread especially among the members of the hierarchy. This Masonic infiltration, in the interior of the Church, was already foretold to you by me at Fatima, when I announced to you that Satan would enter in even to the summit of the Church. If the task of Masonry is to lead souls to perdition, bringing them to the worship of false divinities, the task of ecclesiastical Masonry on the other hand is that of destroying Christ and his Church, building a new idol, namely a false christ and a false church." (To the Priests, Our Lady's Beloved Sons, No. 406, June 13, 1989, p. 649)

(Source: To The Priests, Our Lady's Beloved Sons, 12th English Edition,1991, The Marian Movement of Priests, Rev. Albert G. Roux, P.O. Box 8, Francis, Maine 04774-0008. Also available in many foreign languages.)

5 posted on 07/08/2011 8:08:19 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: muawiyah
There are many possible sources of Freemasons in Mexico: from the United States or from France.

At any rate, the Jesuits, and other historical sources, list that Freemasons were in control of Mexico during the regime of Calles.

6 posted on 07/08/2011 8:11:23 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: muawiyah
Leon Trotsky was a Freemason.

Lenin's mother was a Freemason, so I imagine that Lenin either was a Freemason or had Freemason influences.

At any rate, both the the red dragon [communism], and Freemasonry [referred to as the beast in messages to Father Stefan Gobbi are enemies of the Roman Catholic Church.

A person that I personally put much faith in is Josyp Terelya, who was saved from death at the hands of the KGB by a supernatural power. He felt Freemasonry was a significant threat to the Roman Catholic Church.

He writes about this in his books:

Witness, which is autobiography, and:

In the Kingdom of the Spirit

7 posted on 07/08/2011 8:17:21 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Since religious freedom is fundamental in this country, and Christians, if no one else, are armed to the teeth, I think there'd be a serious fight.

BTW, I read through the first reference ~ which is a little bit too kind to the Red presence in Mexico during the 20s and 30s (and today) ~ and it didn't seem to me that the Freemasons were used to go out and kill priests ~ more like Commies killed priests.

BTW, anticlericalism was kind of traditional in Mexico, beginning with Hernán Cortés de Monroy y Pizarro who overthrew the rule of the Aztec priesthood! That's way back in the early 1500s. There were later situations involving disputes between local warlords (and traditionalists) and Catholic church interests ~ but think about it ~ we are talking about 500 years of Euro/Mexican history ~ and surprise, there are still Catholics in Mexico!

I didn't recall the loss of 4,000 priests from the 4,500 earlier in the country ~ although that number seems small. The writer of the piece should have given us a breakdown explaining how many died of old age, how many died of assassination, how many actually went to the Great Satan Himself (Uncle Sam eh just choc full of Masons), and how many found better paying positions somewhere else. Bet most of them actually went to the USA. These anticlericalism urges usually burn themselves out in under a decade so the typical priest might want to stay in the vicinity of mom, dad, brothers and sisters (like a normal human being). The US would have been the best choice.

It's worth noting that areas claimed by Mexico, where the Catholic church had lost property, which fell under the rule of the United States in the 1840s, found those property rights restored ~ sometimes it took until after the Civil War, but the US did not impose anti-Catholic standards on former Mexican territory.

The fact the writer didn't tip his hat to the USA in earlier times (over the same issues) suggests his interest was propagandistic, or he grew up attending Mexican schools where NOTHING GOOD about the USA ever seems to have been taught.

8 posted on 07/08/2011 8:19:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: topher
Looks more like a regular old Mexican Dictator was in charge of Mexico during the Calles period. Mexicans are certainly as capable as any other people on this planet of coming up with their own dictators ~ maybe moreso!

They've only needed to import them on an irregular basis ~ blaming outsiders for the dictatorship is so lame when we are speaking of Mexico. They do this to themselves.

9 posted on 07/08/2011 8:23:18 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: topher
The book Mexican Martyrdom [corrected title], originally published 1936, was written by a professor of political science at Georgetown.

The author, Father Wilfrid Parsons, SJ, states in his book that Freemasons were involved in the persecution of Catholics in Mexico during Calles.

10 posted on 07/08/2011 8:46:12 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: topher
Lenin's mother was a Freemason

I find that hard to believe. Freemasons are all male.

11 posted on 07/08/2011 8:50:37 PM PDT by bannie ("The gov't that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.")
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To: topher

Please give me the source that indicates that Leon trotsky
was a Freemason.

12 posted on 07/08/2011 8:55:34 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: muawiyah

The article is utter BS! “topher” and his friends need to put a cork in it and get a life.

In the U.S. there ARE NO Freemasons who are atheists. NONE!

To the best of my knowledge there are none in Mexico.

There is NO EVIDENCE that Leon Trotsky was a Freemason.

It is impossible for Lenin’s mother to have been a Freemason because there are no women Masons.

There is a difference in European Masons and those in the U.S. and England. They do not associate among each other.

There ARE Catholic who are also Masons and there is nothing prohibiting a Catholic from being a Mason. I have lots of K of C friends and we get along fine. We are even know to work on common projects in some communities.

I have been a Freemason since I was 21 and I will be 64 in December. This is a subject that I have some first hand knowledge about.

We have enough battles to fight with the Lefties and don’t need nonsense like this dividing us.

13 posted on 07/08/2011 9:00:27 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: bannie
Best I can figure it out the problem is NONE of the Catholics writing about the Masons are supposed to be all that familiar with it ~ after all, such familiarity would only come with membership!

Compound that with the fact that they are writing for the illumination of the minds of their fellows in an overwhelmingly Catholic country, there's really not going to be all that many folks around who'd even try to poke holes in the stories.

It is axiomatic that local partisans will blame foreign spies and traitors for current problems! That is true at any time for any society.

Still you can look up the various Masonic sites on the net and they will tell you where each and every chapter is located in which Mexican cities. There's a Benito Juarez chapter ! Now that was a surprise. Benito? Honored by the Masons? Well, there it is. Most of the others are named after the cities and towns where they are located.

Looks about as open an organization in Mexico as it is in the US or Canada.

One thing to watch out for was a warning that a number of the sites claiming that Trotsky was a Mason are also anti-semitic!

There's apparently little in the way of verifiable fact beyond an article he appears to have written about the Masons.

I seriously doubt the Orthodox crowd in Russia have any more depth of understanding of the Masons than anyone else. Fur Shur, they know about Commies!

BTW, I've never engaged any known member of the Masons in conversation to determine the depth of his anti-Catholic sentiment, nor have I ever engaged any known Roman Catholic in conversation to determine the depth of his anti-Mason sentiment.

I don't really think those are big issues in the United States ~ particularly now that we have so many Roman Catholic members of the Republican party (with a safe presumption that at least half the Masons are Republicans as well).

They do seem to get along with each other quite well ~ no assassinations for instance. In Mexico? Would they have room for that given the big press being put on the country by the narcotrafficantes ~

14 posted on 07/08/2011 9:06:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Well, stated.

I know of, at least, one time that a western GL was held in Mexico—Ensenada, I think.

Oddly, the PHQ after me was Jewish.

15 posted on 07/08/2011 9:14:28 PM PDT by bannie ("The gov't that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.")
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To: topher

Speaking as a Mason with strong Catholic sympathies...

We’re not out to get you. Honestly. There are predominantly two strains of Freemasonry in the world — Regular Masonry, which is rooted in the Grand Lodge of England, and “Oriental Masonry”, which is based in Continental Europe. Regular Masonry is the predominant form.

You cannot join a Regular lodge of Masons without a firm belief in God. It’s not something to which we allow people to pay lip service — it’s central to the whole thing. Communists are simply not welcome among us. Furthermore, I can plainly state that any Regular Mason who attacked a church would find himself kicked out of the fraternity faster than a wink — we frown on behavior that brings disdain to our Creator.

Unfortunately, Continental Masonry is different from Regular Masonry in some notable ways. They allow atheists into their ranks, as well as women. They have traditionally been anti-clerical and have had strong antipathy against the Church, mainly due to that atheist enlightenment presence. Mexican Masons would most likely draw their heritage from those Continental roots — but don’t think for an instant that they reflect the broad majority of Masons. These are two very different traditions we are talking about.

Regular Masons don’t hate the Church. Nothing in Freemasonry prevents a Mason from becoming a Catholic or forbids a Catholic from becoming a Mason. Nothing that is ever said or done in a Lodge of Master Masons has ANYTHING to do with the Catholic Church in any way. What we do respect is that the Catholic Church forbids Catholics to be Masons — I personally would warn a Catholic seeking to join of the Church’s prohibition, sad as I find it.

Please don’t think that all Masons are evil or are part of something evil based upon the actions of a vile group of people that don’t even have much in common with us or what we practice. Catholics are misrepresented in similar ways all the time and I try make it a point to correct the record when it comes to your beliefs, your practices, and your Church — we really are on your side more than you know.

16 posted on 07/08/2011 9:30:08 PM PDT by MWS (De duobus malis, minus est semper eligendum. - Thomas a Kempis)
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17 posted on 07/08/2011 9:31:37 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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I want to say this with respect but...

You are either uninformed, making this stuff up as you go along or both.

Free Masons are men, period.

18 posted on 07/08/2011 9:34:58 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: topher

I don’t recall Trotsky being a Mason.

19 posted on 07/08/2011 9:35:44 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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That pretty well covers the situation.

Still, THEY mean you ~ and don't seem to differentiate between the two brands.

This little discussion highlights a problem FR has in attracting Hispanic members (other than Cubans). We really don't speak the same "history". Sure, the words are similar, and some of the meanings are comparable, but really, neither RC nor Mason mean the same thing in the US as they do in the minds of the Mexican Reds or the Mexican Traditionalists.

This occurs with dozens of other very important ideas.

It's a really good reason to build a really big wall BTW. There's little chance for a Mexican to successully assimilate in the US given the shibboleths they live with in their minds.

20 posted on 07/08/2011 9:38:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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