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This article is in response to posting that Freemasonry is friendly to Roman Catholics. Freemasonry has been very Anti-Catholic, for the most part. Though there is hostility towards Roman Catholics by Freemasons in the United Stated, there is not the history of killing Roman Catholics that has occurred in other countries. These countries include France, Italy, Mexico, Portugal, as well as other countries.

There was a Freemason persecution of the Catholic Church occurring when Our Lady of Fatima appeared in Portugal in 1917.

1 posted on 07/08/2011 7:56:19 PM PDT by topher
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it's happening today all over the muslim world, and who is aligned with the muslims, the marxists/socialists whosell them arms.

2 posted on 07/08/2011 8:00:51 PM PDT by Coleus (Adult Stem Cells Work, there is NO Need to Harvest Babies for Their Body Parts!)
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Hmm, the part that's hardest to believe is that there were Freemasons in Mexico.

There actually were Communists and bandits ~ lots of bandits ~ still lots of bandits and one of the major political parties is certainly Communist influenced even today.

But hasn't the regime always been very suspicious of outside influences ~ like since Cortes showed up?

3 posted on 07/08/2011 8:02:29 PM PDT by muawiyah
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From the Marian Movement of Priests that Freemasonry is the black beast like a leopard that is referenced in the book of Revelation:

[Message from Our Lady to Father Stefan Gobb]i:

"I am weeping because the Church is continuing along the road of division, of loss of the true faith, of apostasy and of errors which are being spread more and more without anyone offering opposition to them. Even now, that which I predicted at Fatima and that which I have revealed here in the third message confided to a little daughter of mine (i.e. Sister Lucia) is in the process of being accomplished. And so, even for the Church the moment of its great trial has come, because the man of iniquity will establish himself within it and the abomination of desolation will enter into the holy temple of God." (To the Priests, Our Lady's Beloved Sons, No. 362, September 15, 1987, p. 572.)

"The black beast like a leopard indicates Freemasonry; the beast with the two horns like a lamb indicates Freemasonry infiltrated into the interior of the Church, that is to say, ecclesiastical Masonry, which has spread especially among the members of the hierarchy. This Masonic infiltration, in the interior of the Church, was already foretold to you by me at Fatima, when I announced to you that Satan would enter in even to the summit of the Church. If the task of Masonry is to lead souls to perdition, bringing them to the worship of false divinities, the task of ecclesiastical Masonry on the other hand is that of destroying Christ and his Church, building a new idol, namely a false christ and a false church." (To the Priests, Our Lady's Beloved Sons, No. 406, June 13, 1989, p. 649)

(Source: To The Priests, Our Lady's Beloved Sons, 12th English Edition,1991, The Marian Movement of Priests, Rev. Albert G. Roux, P.O. Box 8, Francis, Maine 04774-0008. Also available in many foreign languages.)


5 posted on 07/08/2011 8:08:19 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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Speaking as a Mason with strong Catholic sympathies...

We’re not out to get you. Honestly. There are predominantly two strains of Freemasonry in the world — Regular Masonry, which is rooted in the Grand Lodge of England, and “Oriental Masonry”, which is based in Continental Europe. Regular Masonry is the predominant form.

You cannot join a Regular lodge of Masons without a firm belief in God. It’s not something to which we allow people to pay lip service — it’s central to the whole thing. Communists are simply not welcome among us. Furthermore, I can plainly state that any Regular Mason who attacked a church would find himself kicked out of the fraternity faster than a wink — we frown on behavior that brings disdain to our Creator.

Unfortunately, Continental Masonry is different from Regular Masonry in some notable ways. They allow atheists into their ranks, as well as women. They have traditionally been anti-clerical and have had strong antipathy against the Church, mainly due to that atheist enlightenment presence. Mexican Masons would most likely draw their heritage from those Continental roots — but don’t think for an instant that they reflect the broad majority of Masons. These are two very different traditions we are talking about.

Regular Masons don’t hate the Church. Nothing in Freemasonry prevents a Mason from becoming a Catholic or forbids a Catholic from becoming a Mason. Nothing that is ever said or done in a Lodge of Master Masons has ANYTHING to do with the Catholic Church in any way. What we do respect is that the Catholic Church forbids Catholics to be Masons — I personally would warn a Catholic seeking to join of the Church’s prohibition, sad as I find it.

Please don’t think that all Masons are evil or are part of something evil based upon the actions of a vile group of people that don’t even have much in common with us or what we practice. Catholics are misrepresented in similar ways all the time and I try make it a point to correct the record when it comes to your beliefs, your practices, and your Church — we really are on your side more than you know.


16 posted on 07/08/2011 9:30:08 PM PDT by MWS (De duobus malis, minus est semper eligendum. - Thomas a Kempis)
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WTF?


17 posted on 07/08/2011 9:31:37 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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i'm Catholic, and Past Master of my Lodge...
23 posted on 07/08/2011 9:49:13 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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If my recent article is your inspiration, you’re running out ahead of me.


36 posted on 07/08/2011 11:56:59 PM PDT by dangus
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This is some absurd crap that only serves to divide Christians, especially in the South where the vast majority of Freemasons are devout Christians not a party to the liberalization that's been destroying most denominations. It's like the crazy prophecy junk that goes through all kinds of contortions to point to ‘Benny and the Jets’ as being center of anti-Christian power when in reality it's ‘Turkey and the Stans’ people should be looking at as the coming center of anti-Christian efforts by the Moozlim religion of Satan.
37 posted on 07/09/2011 1:43:24 AM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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This looks interesting. Bookmarked. Thanks for posting.


40 posted on 07/09/2011 3:12:06 AM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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I am a former Freemason, or maybe I am still on the rolls since I never officially quit...

The atheist Masonic regime closed down all the churches in Mexico

I suspect this is a false statement since atheists are not knowingly allowed into Freemasonry...

Though there is hostility towards Roman Catholics by Freemasons in the United Stated

My knowledge and experience in the organization would have to dispute this claim...I know many Catholics who are Masons...They are welcomed into the organization just as well as all denominations...

83 posted on 07/09/2011 10:30:03 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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