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Basic Apologetics: "I think all paths lead to God."
Out of The Horse's Mouth ^ | Juy 6, 2011 | Eric Landry

Posted on 07/07/2011 4:52:34 PM PDT by Gamecock

William Cwirla (LCMS): When people say things like that, I always like to ask, “On what basis do you think that? What evidence can you put forward that this statement is true?”

It is true that all religious paths, save one, lead to the same place, but that place isn’t God. All religions, save one, hold that you must work your way to God, whether by your creeds, your conduct, or your worship. This is essentially the religion of the Law, something that all religions, save one, have in common.

The statement presupposes that we are on a search for God, much like a hiking trip through the mountains, and whether we take the high road or the low, we will all ultimately wind up in the same place. Buddhism essentially works this way, and even a surprising number of Christians have been caught up into believing this notion that all paths lead to God as long as you sincerely follow your chosen path.

The path is not ours to define but God’s. Jesus pointed out that the way to destruction is broad, and no one has trouble finding that road, while the way to life is exceedingly narrow, and those who find it are few (Matt. 7:13-14). Christianity is the only religion that is really a non-religion, in the sense that we don’t work to God but God comes all the way to us. “But God, who is rich in mercy, out of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead through our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up with him, and made us sit with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus” (Eph. 2:4-6). God in Christ does it all.

The narrow door Jesus was speaking of is the narrow door of his own death. We would not seek this door on our own, much less find it. Who in their right minds would construct a religion out of an all-sufficient, all-atoning sacrificial death of the Son of God in which the sinner is justified before God? To the wisdom of the world, this is utter nonsense, not to mention bad for morality in general. That’s why from start to finish, God must do the work of salvation for us. We would not have it this way on our own.

As with everything else in Christianity, it all hangs on the death and resurrection of Jesus. While it is theoretically possible that there are other ways for a sinner to stand justified before God, God has not revealed any. Instead, he sent his only begotten Son who claimed to be the only way to the Father (John 14:6). On its own, that might be an outrageous example of hubris on the part of Jesus. But then, he’s the only One who died and rose bodily from the dead. We’re going to have to take his word on that one.

Jason Stellman (PCA): Well, in a certain sense it is true that all paths lead to God. The Bible teaches that all people, great and small, rich and poor, will stand before their Maker. The problem isn’t getting to God, it’s being accepted by him.

Many today feel that God will happily receive all who stand before him with a smile and a warm hug (R. C. Sproul jokingly calls this view “Justification by Death”). But if we take a few moments to consider who this God is, it becomes necessary to reevaluate our position and question our confidence.

Let’s use the realm of civic justice as an illustration. Suppose there were a judge in a certain town who was known for being an accepting, gregarious fellow in private, and his magnanimous personality spilled over into his work. So when thieves, murderers, and kidnappers stand before him, he just can’t help but love them and let them off with a small slap on the wrist. If this were to happen over and over, the town would rise up and demand justice, wouldn’t they? And rightly so. We all have an inherent sense of right and wrong (which really flares up when we’re the ones wronged!) which tells us that criminals should be punished.

But whatever sense of justice and fairness we share as humans beings is there because we have been made in God’s image. If we think evil should be punished, how much more true is this when we consider God and his standards, his holiness, and his judgment? God is infinitely more pure, just, and offended at sin than we, and therefore his very nature demands that sinners be punished for their actions.

The good news, of course, is that God is also infinitely more gracious and merciful than we, and for this reason he has sent his Son into the world to walk in our shoes, live the life we have failed to live, and die the death that our sins demand. So though it is true that “all paths lead to God,” it is also true that only one of those paths leads to forgiveness and blessing. All others lead to eternal destruction.

From Modern Reformation (March/April 2006): Does God Believe in Atheists?


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1 posted on 07/07/2011 4:52:37 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; jboot; AZhardliner; ...

2 posted on 07/07/2011 4:54:36 PM PDT by Gamecock (It's not eat drink and be merry because tommow we die, but rather because yesterday we were dead.)
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To: Gamecock

All paths do NOT lead to Salvation, only Jesus Christ does. If someone tells me that they believe that I have to ask them if they believe that Jesus was a liar, intolerant or the Son of God.

I almost never get a straight answer from them.


3 posted on 07/07/2011 4:55:48 PM PDT by Grunthor (Support a POTUS candidate but don't get emotionally invested like a liberal.)
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To: Gamecock

The devil would like this theory. . .


4 posted on 07/07/2011 5:05:29 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Grunthor

I believe that is the point of the article.


5 posted on 07/07/2011 5:13:02 PM PDT by Gamecock (It's not eat drink and be merry because tommow we die, but rather because yesterday we were dead.)
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To: Gamecock
Joh 14:2 In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?

How do you interpret this verse?

6 posted on 07/07/2011 5:51:15 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: Gamecock

Bookmark.


7 posted on 07/07/2011 5:51:48 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: verga

There are many rooms. There are enough rooms for every child of God. Only the children of God will live in these rooms. Those who are not the children of God will not be in heaven.


8 posted on 07/07/2011 6:05:29 PM PDT by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
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To: verga

Given the rest of our Lord and Saviour’s teachings, it means that there is room for all who repent in believe.

What do you make of it?


9 posted on 07/07/2011 6:08:07 PM PDT by Gamecock (It's not eat drink and be merry because tommow we die, but rather because yesterday we were dead.)
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To: Gamecock

so you believe we are saved by our works, i.e. believing and repenting?


10 posted on 07/07/2011 6:36:24 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Gamecock

“I think all paths lead to God.”

Ultimately he is right, all paths do lead to God; some to enter into His rest and some to outer darkness, but all must appear before Him, ultimately.


11 posted on 07/07/2011 6:53:08 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: Gamecock
Given the rest of our Lord and Saviour’s teachings, it means that there is room for all who repent in believe.

Mat 19:17 And he said to him, "Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments."

Mat 19:21 Jesus said to him, "If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me."

So you are saying our salvation is based on works? We have to repent, believe, keep the commandments, and be charitable.

Thank you for making that clear.

12 posted on 07/07/2011 6:57:56 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: verga
"So you are saying our salvation is based on works? We have to repent, believe, keep the commandments, and be charitable."

Welcome to Judaism !!
13 posted on 07/07/2011 7:00:17 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; Gamecock

We can’t even believe and repent unless God gives us the faith to do so.


14 posted on 07/07/2011 7:55:26 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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To: P8riot; Gamecock

yes, we are saved by grace.....not believing and repenting.

sounded like pelagianism to me.


15 posted on 07/07/2011 8:06:35 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: blue-duncan

That’s exactly what I was thinking.

One of the myth’s/stories is how people will meet Saint Peter at the Pearly Gates with a book. In reality, all will meet Jesus and HE will decide where you spend eternity. Eternally with Him or destroyed in the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:14).


16 posted on 07/07/2011 9:39:51 PM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: magritte; Gamecock
"So you are saying our salvation is based on works? We have to repent, believe, keep the commandments, and be charitable." Welcome to Judaism !!

Magritte, I forwarded your response to gamecock since, I was asking him to clarify his earlier statement. You will notice the Question mark (?) after my first sentence.

17 posted on 07/08/2011 4:07:32 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: verga

I saw that...although I’m not Jewish (I’m Noahide), it summed up my religious life very succinctly. If the whole whole lived like that, whatta world.


18 posted on 07/08/2011 6:23:09 AM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: Gamecock

It is not possible to understand Grace until you first understand you do not deserve it.
All paths lead to God, all paths do not lead to Salvation. Salvation is a Gift because of Grace.


19 posted on 07/08/2011 7:40:10 AM PDT by svcw (democrats are liars, it's a given)
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To: Gamecock
That’s why from start to finish, God must do the work of salvation for us.

That's exactly right. When Adam and Eve ate the fruit, they died Spiritually that day and, as our heads, all of Mankind died Spiritually with them. The fact of this is found in Psalm 14 and 53 (verses 2,3 [repeated!]) and repeated in Romans 3.

The Apostle Paul uses the phrase "Dead in Trespasses and Sin" repeatedly in several epistles to reinforce this fact.

Isaiah repeated calls us Blind and Deaf in this condition (example Isaiah 42:18).

Therefore, God must do the work of salvation for us.

. It is He that must take away the Heart of Stone, The Ears that do not hear, regenerate the mind that will not believe, plant the measure of faith, Birth us again (be Born Again), woo us with an irresistible Love, until the confession springs forth from our lips of what He has done and put in us. And you might ask what that is?

The confession is this, that Christ died for their sins on the Cross - personally for them - and that they are trusting in Him alone and call Him Lord.

It is all because of God and to Him alone belongs all the glory.

20 posted on 07/08/2011 7:40:15 AM PDT by sr4402
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