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To: Godzilla
“studies show “ lol

references to self or other blogs/posts......

You stated: “because their leadership was in open defiance of the laws of this country “

You mean like having the US government pass laws that are unconstitutional by ANY litmus test and jail people (1,300), strip them of the voting rights, tell them that they are forbidden to run for public office.......... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmunds_Act

Or how about the Edmond's Tucker Act: where the US government essentially nationalized all property of the Mormon church! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmunds%E2%80%93Tucker_Act Which required an oath of office that made essentially ALL Mormons unqualified to hold public office, even if they never practiced polygamy! Dictating what textbooks kids use in schools, installing intentionally anti-Mormon federal judges.

This is getting comical, keep it coming!

You know, I'm Southern Baptist but grew up in Germany. Over there I had people looking at me like I was weird, they saw us as radical, in fact dangerous, sort of like a Muslim extremist.............

49 posted on 07/03/2011 7:26:14 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6; reaganaut; Colofornian
references to self or other blogs/posts......

Oh I can give you plenty of references far more reliable that wiki red. google Kathryn Daynes and population statistics for Utah from 1850 to 1950 to see that on the contrary, men outnumbered women in Utah.

You mean like having the US government pass laws that are unconstitutional by ANY litmus test and jail people (1,300), strip them of the voting rights, tell them that they are forbidden to run for public office.......... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmunds_Act

LOL, oh right. BTW red - had you researched this subject more closely (or even read the wiki article), you would have found that the Supreme Court ruled the law constitutional because polygamy was not a protected religious practice.

Mormons were in violation of federal and state laws in regards to polygamy long before 1887 red. Perhaps you should do some deeper research eh? Federal laws were enacted between 1862 to 1879 merely served to force the Mormons to comply with existing common laws. Young in his illegal theocracy in Utah continued to ignore the laws.

Which required an oath of office that made essentially ALL Mormons unqualified to hold public office, even if they never practiced polygamy! Dictating what textbooks kids use in schools, installing intentionally anti-Mormon federal judges.

Considering that Utah was operating outside the law as a theocracy, this is not surprising now is it. But you misrepresent the facts - non polygamous mormons were not affected by this red - only the ones practicing polygamy. the mormon church was disenfranchised because it continued to endorse polygamy and used its resources to continue the practice. Specifying textbooks - wow, how hideous red - particularly since the 'text books' were those promoting polygamy and teaching mormonism. Judges were replaced because they were personally sworn to Young and the prophets of the mormon church (like a Shira court) - and were replaced by real federal judges.

This is getting comical, keep it coming!

Yep, your exposition is a laugh a minute.

You know, I'm Southern Baptist but grew up in Germany. Over there I had people looking at me like I was weird, they saw us as radical, in fact dangerous, sort of like a Muslim extremist.............

What were you doing to stand out so much red. I lived in Germany for a fair amount of time and never did the locals look at me as something 'weird'.

Keep researching red.

56 posted on 07/03/2011 8:23:39 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Red6; Godzilla; reaganaut
...jail people (1,300)...

So bigamy was just some "paper tiger" law on the books for no useful reason, eh?

And you thereby show by inference here that you object to the very roots of the GOP social agenda. The GOP sprung up in the 1850s. Its very first social agenda was to root out the "twin relics of barbarism" -- slavery and polygamy.

I guess this shows how much of a GOP poster at its roots that you are not. Why do you think 7 million people signed those 28 banners NOT to seat polygamist B.H. Roberts to Congress in 1898?

Do you think it was only the government -- and not the people who put those reps in place -- that were strongly provoked by polygamy?

You either don't know your 19th century history and the sentiments of the people from 1856-1898, or you have some other reason why you've elected to become a pro-Mormon, pro-polygamy ally.

Somehow, you don't seem to realize that polygamy was a direct attack upon monogamy -- just like same-sex "marriage" is.

75 posted on 07/04/2011 6:13:22 AM PDT by Colofornian (The Mormon church regards 100% of the founding fathers as apostates from the 'true' church)
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