[kearnyirish2]

This should have been happening across the country, and years ago. So many Catholics complicit in abortion with their votes, and very little said about it; in fact, “Catholic” states went to Gore, Kerry, and Obama. The Vatican should have replaced the whole American hierarchy.

[Cronos]

It's too darn difficult -- the Bishops still have some independence. It's good in some cases, but bad in others. There was the case of a Bishop in Australia who was gently asked why he preached against doctrine. He took 10 months to reply. Then the v asked him to resign. he took another 10 months to reply back "no". Finally they had to push him out.

Independence is good, but disobedience is difficult to root out without it getting to being too monarchical