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To: Rashputin; Mad Dawg
rash: I have heard such Humanists argue that homosexual sex should be praised by Christians since it cannot possibly lead to abortion

That is a reduction to the Cathar heresy that breeders are bad and it's better to take it ... rather than do as God said "to multiply".

40 posted on 06/26/2011 9:36:52 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: Cronos; Rashputin
I have heard such Humanists argue that homosexual sex should be praised by Christians since it cannot possibly lead to abortion, and I've heard people who call themselves Christian agree with them.

Losing both legs is fabulous: no more sore feet!

Property is evil, it leads to theft.

I can't say enough for death. Dead people don't litter.

It's not just that they consider themselves Christians, it's that they consider themselves thoughtful! To them I would say,"Decapitation in your case should be praised. It cannot possibly lead to gross errors of thought!"

Let me slip into "O tempora, o mores" mode here. I could begin by wondering how many of these geniuses could identify that quote. It's not that knowing bits of Cicero's first oration against Cataline is essential to thought. But in might be necessary (but not sufficient) to the kind of education that leads to ordered thought.

O Chronoi! (little translingual pun there...) Once again the importance of having a clue about the Incarnation shows itself. If we start out thinking that the body is an inconvenient and unreliable locus of a thinking entity, the first things to go are two of the four cardinal virtues. Prudence goes because we have denied the possibility of the benign influence on our thought of our creatureliness. We think, like the Cathars, think we can cut ourselves free of the limitations of our fleshy finitude if only we try hard enough. And so we mistake rash and disordered thought for courageous new speculation.

Temperance goes because the same limitations of finitude are considered foreign enemies to our beautifully (in our view) free thought and will, rather than guides to happiness.

When we have bereft ourselves of those habits of wisdom, our courage will fail us the first time our bodies rise up in revolt, and justice won't even get in the door, since it is as foolish not to know one's desires and inclinations as it is to ignore the massing of enemy troops on one's borders.

Okay, first rant of the day. I could go on but I'm merciful, and it would be better for all if I just mutter and grumble into my coffee-cup.

41 posted on 06/27/2011 2:20:53 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Cronos; Mad Dawg
"That is a reduction to the Cathar heresy ..."

Oh, absolutely. Every heresy from the past has been revived and marketed to people in this country as an acceptable "Christian" viewpoint and is either undermining a particular existing church from within or is the basis for a separate church on it's own.

At the same time, those who are sincere are showered with deceptions and slanders against every identifiable group of faithful Christians to such a degree that they never combine with fellow Christians and become effective combatants in the war against Satan. Instead, they are constantly encouraged to focus on the few doctrinal issues that separate them from fellow Christians rather than the immense evil they should be fighting.

Regards

42 posted on 06/27/2011 2:39:00 AM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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