Posted on 06/22/2011 3:45:09 AM PDT by Cronos
......While Presbyterians have voted on many issues over the years, never have they been so brazen as to vote Scriptural standards out of vogue. Never have Presbyterians been so presumptuous as to "vote" that biblical standards do not apply to their denomination......
At issue is that this denomination has hit the mute button on 2,000 years of Christian belief and morality. Standards that have been honored for centuries have now been deleted, leaving Presbyterians with the following moral mandate: "whatever."
Whatever a local church, or a presbytery, or some other bureaucratic subset chooses to do is now permitted. The group has only to say that its chosen policy has been made "in joyful submission to the Lordship of Jesus Christ," without one scintilla of specificity regarding what "joyful submission" means.
(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...
“We believe deeply in what we believe …” says McRight. Translated into everyday language, she is telling us that sincerity, not substance matters. With all due respect, McRight is wrong.”
So sad to see apostasy struggling to take over. I started seeing warning signs a long time ago talking with Presbyterian friends.
The Presbyterian Church (USA) has been taken over by democrats at the highest levels.
“The Suicide of a Denomination”
“For centuries, the Presbyterian Church stood on the proud heritage and legacy of men like John Knox who fearlessly and valiantly stood for the truth of scripture.
Today, the modern Presbyterian Church (USA) (also “PCUSA”) bears little resemblance to its noble ancestry.
The PCUSA has showed a constant, measurable decline for at least 40 continuous years. At the current rate, the PCUSA will be extinct in another 40 years.
One could make the argument that they have been “dead” for years. The recent decision by the majority of the presbyteries simply made the death official.”
http://townhall.com/columnists/bobburney/2011/06/10/the_suicide_of_a_denomination
If one looks at the beginnings of that branch of the Reformation, one could make the argument that they were doomed to fail before they even began.
“In its passion for relevance, the Presbyterian Church (USA) has so accommodated itself to the world that there is no discernible difference between the two. One wonders who has converted whom? If there is no difference, why would anyone want to join?”
Exactly.
Don't worry, I'm sure one of the usual suspects can find some Scripture they can torture into agreeing with whatever the voters want. Remember, "The Lego Block Method of Scripture Interpretation" is their specialty so just because something isn't in the Scriptures doesn't mean they can't convince themselves that it is. from the article :
"At issue is that this denomination has hit the mute button on 2,000 years of Christian belief and morality."
Well, dang, doesn't the author of this article know that all the old Christian belief and morality is tradition in the eyes of the self-elected? I'm surprised a fellow Presbyterian hasn't beaten him with a tire tool for even suggesting that something akin to tradition should have a role in their church. It's Sola Yourselfa 24/7/365 for all the Presbyterians around here and anyone who thinks tradition has a role is a heretic who can't possibly be among the elect.
Regards
| The Orthodox Presbyterian Church was founded in 1936 by about 135 people who were offended by the lack of discipline in and doctrinal errors of the Presbyterian Church in the USA. . But early in its history the OPC fell under the influence of an agnostic view of propositional revelation emanating from Westminster Seminary -- a view that said that there is no identity of content between the \"Christian system\" of theology, meaning Reformed confessions of faith, and the \"divine system\" of theology, known only to God. This agnosticism has now brought the OPC to the point of falling. Like its predecessor, the PCUSA, the OPC has failed to discipline teachers who teach contrary to Scriptures and the Confession of Faith, and it has endorsed un-Biblical teaching about Scripture and the Gospel. |
| Despite the painstaking efforts of many fine Christians within the Orthodox Presbyterian Church (OPC), the leaders of the OPC maintain a suicidal course. Despite the departure of congregations and individuals from the OPC, due to the leaders' collective inability to resolve the current justification controversy Biblically, the OPC leaders continue to advance doctrines that contradict Scripture. The OPC is, in the words of its late historian Charles Dennison, "obviously inept, bumbling, [and] confused."1 That confusion now appears to be fatal. At this point in its history, the confessional affirmations of the OPC have no more credibility than the confessional affirmations of the PCUSA from 1936 to 1967. One of the commissioners to the 2004 OPC General Assembly made this very point: "There was a time when, if the OPC said it, it was accepted. The 2003 deliverance that accompanied the decision to acquit [John Kinnaird] destroyed forever that our words will not be questioned. The PCUSA always said that the [Westminster] Confession was their confession (even as they were denying it)." |
ouch... but true.
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