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To: Celtic Cross
This is pretty simple. Try to follow along.

When RC priests are accused of sexual offenses against minors, they are protected, and often promoted to keep their crimes hidden from public view.

According to Rome's Crimen Sollicitationis, all parties — victims, families, teachers, everyone — are sworn to absolute secrecy upon threat of excommunication. The “problem” is handled in-house and usually dismissed.

When Protestant ministers are suspected of sexual offenses against minors, the police are alerted and very often they are arrested and stand trial.
However, the majority of sexual improprieties among Protestant pastors involve heterosexual liaisons with adult members of the congregation, whereas in the RCC, the offenses are usually priests raping children.

18 posted on 06/21/2011 9:46:22 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

You keep posting misinformation after being corrected time after time. Why is this?


31 posted on 06/21/2011 10:34:46 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Firstly -- don't call your cult a "Protestant" church.

Your cult says that Methodists and Pentecostalist and in fact all Arminiams like Baptists etc. are damnable heretics going to hell

This of course is besides it's blatant anti-semitism and hatred of every Christian group -- down to calling Rev. Billy Graham a pawn of satan

Secondly, your cult of 10,000 adults and paedophiles covers up the number of cases it generates pretty well, just like every such tiny cult does.

Just because your cult molests its young like the the Branch Davidians and doesn't want the world to know, that's why the continuous diatribe against others.

34 posted on 06/22/2011 12:30:33 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
your cult, The OPC is headed the way of the PCUSA to oblivion --
The Orthodox Presbyterian Church was founded in 1936 by about 135 people who were offended by the lack of discipline in and doctrinal errors of the Presbyterian Church in the USA. .
But early in its history the OPC fell under the influence of an agnostic view of propositional revelation emanating from Westminster Seminary -- a view that said that there is no identity of content between the \"Christian system\" of theology, meaning Reformed confessions of faith, and the \"divine system\" of theology, known only to God.

This agnosticism has now brought the OPC to the point of falling. Like its predecessor, the PCUSA, the OPC has failed to discipline teachers who teach contrary to Scriptures and the Confession of Faith, and it has endorsed un-Biblical teaching about Scripture and the Gospel.
From Trinity Lectures Foundation

Despite the painstaking efforts of many fine Christians within the Orthodox Presbyterian Church (OPC), the leaders of the OPC maintain a suicidal course. Despite the departure of congregations and individuals from the OPC, due to the leaders' collective inability to resolve the current justification controversy Biblically, the OPC leaders continue to advance doctrines that contradict Scripture. The OPC is, in the words of its late historian Charles Dennison, "obviously inept, bumbling, [and] confused."1 That confusion now appears to be fatal.

At this point in its history, the confessional affirmations of the OPC have no more credibility than the confessional affirmations of the PCUSA from 1936 to 1967. One of the commissioners to the 2004 OPC General Assembly made this very point: "There was a time when, if the OPC said it, it was accepted. The 2003 deliverance that accompanied the decision to acquit [John Kinnaird] destroyed forever that our words will not be questioned. The PCUSA always said that the [Westminster] Confession was their confession (even as they were denying it)."

Anyone joining the OPC should know they are headed for another split or dissolution -- they are not a Church founded on faith but on a fake prophet, Machen, coupled with their rejection of being followers of Christ and becoming followers of Calvin.

This is a house built on sand in the 1930s and will not live to see its centenary
35 posted on 06/22/2011 12:31:02 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
This is what your cult preaches: According to your cult "Christians should not celebrate the Seder or other Jewish festivals. "

It's appalling how your cult, the OPC hates Billy Graham, calls Pentecostals and Methodists as damned heretics, hates Jews, Lutherans, Baptists etc. and still pretends to be Protestant

Your post should be honest and state that your cult is a rabidly anti-Semitic group that has lately been trying to promote it's anti-Israeli message on FR with posts like:

  1. Easter greetings from Israel - a hoax video aiming to smear Jews and that is as disgusting as the Protocols of the Elders
  2. Jerusalem, the have-not whore
  3. Israel -- where there is a comparison of Biblical Israel to Modern Israel -- and you can guess it's not a pleasant one
  4. All Israel will be Saved, but not all Israel
  5. Jerusalem, Mother of all Harlots
  6. The restoration and conversion of Israel -- this soon descends into a fre for all anti-semitic fest

What is disgusting is that this group (the OPC) pretends to be Christian while spouting it's hatred for Jews and Christians alike

36 posted on 06/22/2011 12:31:29 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Your cults hatred for Bill Graham, Methodists, Baptists and Pentecostals just compounds to its message of hate
37 posted on 06/22/2011 12:31:58 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Excuse me, this addresses nothing, it is only a compilation of your own opinions on a different question than the one I asked.

Does your Church have any guidelines or policies in place on this subject?

P.S. If you think the Catholic Church is over-lenient, take a look whats happening to Father Corapi.

38 posted on 06/22/2011 2:32:29 AM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
According to Rome's Crimen Sollicitationis, all parties — victims, families, teachers, everyone — are sworn to absolute secrecy upon threat of excommunication. The “problem” is handled in-house and usually dismissed.

For the 110th time that I have corrected you on this:

1) Crimen Sollicitationis is about the crime of solicitation within the confessional, not about the abuse of minors per se;

2) the secrecy demanded is only about the investigation, no different than that involved in a grand jury investigation. Nothing in Crimen Sollicitationis forbids the reporting of the crime of abuse, rather than the Church investigation, to the police. This call for secrecy during the investigation is particularly important given the strict seal on Confessions;

3) victims are explicitly exempted from the threat of excommunication;

4) those found guilty solicitation within Confession are subject to the most severe penalties including dismissal from the clerical state;

5) abuse that occurred outside of Confession do not even come under the provisions of Crimen Sollicitationis.

But of course you knew all this because I have corrected you on many occasions before.

44 posted on 06/22/2011 6:04:14 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
This is pretty simple. Try to follow along.

According to Rome's Crimen Sollicitationis, all parties — victims, families, teachers, everyone — are sworn to absolute secrecy upon threat of excommunication. The “problem” is handled in-house and usually dismissed.

ROFLMAO.................atta gurrrl!!

Like a comedian who tells the same old jokes, night after night, after night, you need some new material.

The gig is up, Doc. These whoppers are getting really old.

You're right about one thing, though. It is simple.

For the lurkers..........

Crimen Sollicitationis does not apply outside the confessional, i.e. to the vast majority of abuse cases.

Ignore the shillette that posts this shtick.........

46 posted on 06/22/2011 6:30:55 AM PDT by marshmallow (.)
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