He no longer calls himself "Father Corapi" just plain old "John Corapi".
Posted on 06/18/2011 4:03:22 PM PDT by marshmallow
Herewith a series of links to the exploding blogosphere regarding l'affair Corapi. This will be my last post on this subject. In the meantime.........knock yourselves out.
My First Reaction to the Corapi News. (Patrick Archbold, Creative Minority Report)
Gentle Bishop Mulvey of Corpus Christi (Home of Fr. Corapi's Order) (Devin Rose)
Fr. Corapi Announces He's Leaving the Priesthood (Marianne Medlin, CNA/EWTN News)
Prayer and the Priesthood (Sister Lisa Marie Doty F.D.C.C., Nunspeak)
Fr. Corapi; How Did We Get Here? (Chris Owens, Benedictus Dominus)
Final Thoughts on l'affair Corapi (Deacon Scott Dodge, Καθολικός διάκονος)
The Tragedy of Fr. Corapi (Richard Collins, Linen on the Hedgerow)
Corapi, The Morning After (Deacon Greg Kandra, The Deacon’s Bench)
Fr. Corapi is Obviously Not Padre Pio (Steve Kellmeyer, The Fifth Column)
Xtra Normal Fr. Corapi (Giuseppe Ambrose, The Three Bs)
Fr. John Corapi and the State of Due Process For Accused Priests (Ryan MacDonald, CL)
What Can an Ex-Priest Do? (Deacon Greg Kandra, The Deacon’s Bench)
LOL. I believe you know what I meant by the sinning comment.
But you evaded the point.
Father Corapi used his hedonistic former lifestyle to show human frailty and man’s sinful nature. He pointed to God, Christ and the Church as the Truth and the Answer.
Anybody that would listen to a collection of his talks and didn’t come away with his commitment to Christ, doesn’t have a spiritual problem. They have a mental processing problem.
Billy Graham had a huge “fan ‘ base and a big media corporation to handle the rallies, the huge speeches, his books and videos, etc....AND his donations.
Well, ignoring that Billy Graham is hardly a good role model for Catholic priests, I wonder how close he is to what I quoted from that blog. Did Billy Graham talk about his fans and his fan-base? Did he or anyone working for him actually use such language? Or, did he call them Christians or believers or some such thing? When I see a priest's website talking about his fans I see a reason to wonder.
this is a new time, we have to reach out with social media. And the church is WAAAAAY behind on this.
Social media, fine, but superstar priests with fan-bases, no. I won't agree on that. These giant mega-churches with their rock-star preachers are not the way to learn about God or to approach the sacraments. The Church is not behind on this at all. As a matter of fact, we need to constantly remind ourselves that for 2,000 years the Church has offered the best and most reliable way to approach worship. Father Pfleger is certainly a rock-star priest, and he is a good indicator of why cults of personality focused on priests are a very, very, very bad idea. No, I will stick with my reasonably small, personal and more intimate parish family and will avoid anything approaching these kinds of spectacles.
Billy Graham had a huge “fan ‘ base and a big media corporation to handle the rallies, the huge speeches, his books and videos, etc....AND his donations.
Well, ignoring that Billy Graham is hardly a good role model for Catholic priests, I wonder how close he is to what I quoted from that blog. Did Billy Graham talk about his fans and his fan-base? Did he or anyone working for him actually use such language? Or, did he call them Christians or believers or some such thing? When I see a priest's website talking about his fans I see a reason to wonder.
this is a new time, we have to reach out with social media. And the church is WAAAAAY behind on this.
Social media, fine, but superstar priests with fan-bases, no. I won't agree on that. These giant mega-churches with their rock-star preachers are not the way to learn about God or to approach the sacraments. The Church is not behind on this at all. As a matter of fact, we need to constantly remind ourselves that for 2,000 years the Church has offered the best and most reliable way to approach worship. Father Pfleger is certainly a rock-star priest, and he is a good indicator of why cults of personality focused on priests are a very, very, very bad idea. No, I will stick with my reasonably small, personal and more intimate parish family and will avoid anything approaching these kinds of spectacles.
Billy Graham had a huge “fan ‘ base and a big media corporation to handle the rallies, the huge speeches, his books and videos, etc....AND his donations.
Well, ignoring that Billy Graham is hardly a good role model for Catholic priests, I wonder how close he is to what I quoted from that blog. Did Billy Graham talk about his fans and his fan-base? Did he or anyone working for him actually use such language? Or, did he call them Christians or believers or some such thing? When I see a priest's website talking about his fans I see a reason to wonder.
this is a new time, we have to reach out with social media. And the church is WAAAAAY behind on this.
Social media, fine, but superstar priests with fan-bases, no. I won't agree on that. These giant mega-churches with their rock-star preachers are not the way to learn about God or to approach the sacraments. The Church is not behind on this at all. As a matter of fact, we need to constantly remind ourselves that for 2,000 years the Church has offered the best and most reliable way to approach worship. Father Pfleger is certainly a rock-star priest, and he is a good indicator of why cults of personality focused on priests are a very, very, very bad idea. No, I will stick with my reasonably small, personal and more intimate parish family and will avoid anything approaching these kinds of spectacles.
As Corapi states, “there are those in the hierarchy...who want me gone...so I am gone”
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I told my wife a long time ago that he would have problems. His message was too “conservative” (true Catholic doctrine IMO) with respect to social issues and where this country and world is headed. He didn’t toe what I see as the American bishops’ implicit “love the state” attitudes.
My hunch is that this whole thing was a setup and he was pushed out for his strong message rather than the allegations. I believe that there is a lot more to this than meets the eye.
Oh, and if certain Church authorities wanted him gone because of these accusations, where is the Christianity in that line of thinking?
“Anybody that would listen to a collection of his talks and didn’t come away with his commitment to Christ, doesn’t have a spiritual problem. They have a mental processing problem.”
I guess John Corapi did not listen to his own sermons then... because he abandoned his Church and his vows. I guess he did not really believe what he what he was selling. He did not trust in the Lord to see him through, he took the easy way out.
Excellant post...you present a very plausible scenario.
LOL. I believe you know what I meant by the sinning comment.
But you evaded the point.
Father Corapi used his hedonistic former lifestyle to show human frailty and man’s sinful nature. He pointed to God, Christ and the Church as the Truth and the Answer.
Anybody that would listen to a collection of his talks and didn’t come away with his commitment to Christ, doesn’t have a spiritual problem. They have a mental processing problem.
Continue to worship a fallen priest who pays hush money and uses non-disclosures to silence witnesses if you wish; I think I will worship my savior, Jesus Christ.
This is where we part.
“Continue to worship a fallen priest who pays hush money and uses non-disclosures to silence witnesses if you wish; I think I will worship my savior, Jesus Christ.
So, it’s not enough to make up stuff and assume things you have no idea about to a public figure, now you’re going to accuse a person, you don’t even know of not worshiping Jesus Christ but a former priest.
Nice. Christianly. You’re on a roll continue to make an arse of yourself.
“His message was too “conservative” (true Catholic doctrine IMO) with respect to social issues and where this country and world is headed. He didn’t toe what I see as the American bishops’ implicit “love the state” attitudes.”
Nice analysis, we can play Bingo with that.
“Oh, and if certain Church authorities wanted him gone because of these accusations, where is the Christianity in that line of thinking?”
Yahtzee.
Church history will look back upon this general period, beginning with the molestation cover up, as the beginning of a great period of Scandal in the Church.
You take that in conjunction with the “love for statism” that you mention and the leaning away from Christ and the flock...It is going to take a Century for the Church to recover from this.
Maybe longer, with the Ostrich mentality of many Catholics.
The new information certainly changes the situation and opens up the possibility that he broke his vows.
If money was paid out to silence the accuser and an exceptional legal document was created just for her, then I will not defend Corapi.
But, it all depends on the time-lines involved. If it was a situation where it was normal practice to sign legal documents when leaving the media company, that is a different matter.
I point to this from the article,
“There were other witnesses that also had signed non-disclosure agreements,” said Father Sheehan.”
This is vaguely written. If this means that there was no history of legal documents being signed and this was done to shut people up....then his actions cast doubt on his innocence.
However, if the documents were a regular practice and it just happens to be that they were witnesses, that is a far different story.
So, put me in the “having my doubts” about Corapi’s integrity and innocence here, but still wanting to see more details on some of these statements by SOLT...before I call him “likely and probably guilty”.
All of this about Fr. Corapi leaving the priesthood is brought about by the attacks on the Catholic Church. First came the attacks, then came the lack of action on the part of the Church to defend the accused priests, then came the payoffs.
Perhaps, Fr. Corapi is leaving the priesthood to make a point. And that point is that the Church should give an accused priest a fair trial and demand proof of guilt before deciding to pay off the accuser. I am talking strictly about a Church trial. If the accuser is not happy with the results, let him/her demand a non-Church trial where he/she must prove their claim.
One of the articles you list mentions a priest, long dead, who was accused of sexually assaulting a minor many, many, many years ago. The Church paid the claim even though there was no proof of wrong doing. Time for that to stop.
Fair enough and written like a true gentleman.
It’s the same article, with the same wording. Fr. Corapi says he’s not going to be doing any public ministry as a priest. That doesn’t necessarily mean he won’t still be a priest, saying Masses for himself each day, or saying private Masses for friends and family.
I don’t know why you refuse to believe John Corapi’s superiors and their press release that Corapi announced his resignation from the priesthood.
“Father Corapi “sent us a letter resigning from active ministry and religious life. I have written him a letter asking him to confirm that decision.” - Father Sheehan
Corapi would not even meet with his superiors to discuss the matter, so much for his Vow of Obiedance.
“Father Sheehan said he had tried to arrange a meeting with Father Corapi before any final decision was announced, but had not heard back from him.”
Is the Bishop and SOLT lying too?
Corapi on his own website announced that his 20th anniversary was his last Mass ever.
Corapi just could not give up the good life and abandoned the priesthood.
““We wanted him to come back to the community, and that would have meant leaving everything he has. It would have been a drastic change for him,” Father Sheehan said”
I'm sad for all those who liked Fr. Corapi. I never listened to him, so I don't really know much about him, other than friends of mine thought he was a powerful speaker.
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