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2 posted on 06/16/2011 8:39:37 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (My God can't be bribed by money or good works or bound by manmade "covenants". Romney's can.)
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I admire Mormons in many ways but wonder why they can’t see that it’s all made up.


4 posted on 06/16/2011 8:47:32 AM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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"I was seeing a teen-aged incest victim a while back. Her father was a member of the high council in their Stake,....All during the years the incest was going on, people would come up to this girl at church and say things like, "Your father is such a wonderful man. I'm sure he'll be the next bishop of the ward." She told me that the only thing that kept her from losing her testimony during that period was that in spite of what everyone said about her father, he was never called as bishop. This is a testimony to me of the inspiration of priesthood callings, but it is not a sound basis....

What!? These two statements are in conflict with each other. Stake positions are "priesthood callings" and are done so by. IOW, this sicko was placed into a position of authority over potentially thousands of members, all the while abusing his daughter and this clown has the temerity to claim that these callings are done so with "inspiration"? HC's are responsible for assisting the Stake presidency with the so-called "disciplinary proceedings" and that dirtbag was placed into his position through "inspiration" in the first place!

Color me unimpressed with mormon "discernment" and "inspiration".

Thank you God for liberating me from this "church".

7 posted on 06/16/2011 9:00:05 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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This subconsciously scripted world view implies that Mormons should be more righteous, happier, more in general, superior to non-Mormons. The paired assumptions, of course, are that gentiles are more decadent, less happy, less inclined to honesty and integrity, less successful and, in general, inferior to Mormons. On the one hand this suggests an arrogant ethnocentricity which fights against the friendly, outgoing missionary spirit. On the other hand, it sets some Mormons up for painful disillusionment. Our world view suggests that our way of life is God-inspired and thus constitutes in its purity the best of all possible worlds. Any good person of integrity and personal honesty, we like to tell ourselves, will convert to Mormonism once he sees how superior it is as a way of life.

This superiority stance applies strain on Mormons from two different angles. First, we tend to feel we must live our lives as an example of Mormon superiority. This tends to place an enormous burden on the shoulders of many Mormons. When these Mormons see nonmembers who are not impressed thilt their Mormon way of life is superior, they feel like failures.

"Mormons focus on accessible, social aspects of their religion. Although the Mormon system of doctrine is genuinely attractive to many of its members, many have argued that the primary "glue" of Mormonism is the heritage, culture, and family ties, not the doctrine and theology. In other words, the typical allegiance to the Mormon organization primarily stems from something other than doctrinal concerns. The average Mormon sitting in a pew does not care how or why their religion works, they only care that it works for them."
-- from the thread Atheoligical Tendency ~Open~
"It's not easy to learn a new culture, doctrine and terminology — just ask new converts to the LDS Church — one of whom was disappointed to learn that the fireside she'd been eagerly looking forward was not a bonfire. Or the one who showed up in tears at the office of Marleen Williams convinced that no Mormon man would want to marry her because she couldn't operate a hot glue gun....According to the study, members of the church can help new converts by being more open and by giving love and acceptance to them, especially as they struggle to learn LDS jargon and learn the difference between culture and doctrine."
-- from the thread LDS conversion is a process, study indicates
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39 posted on 06/16/2011 12:57:35 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed: he's hated on seven continents)
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“She told me that the only thing that kept her from
losing her testimony during that period was that . . .”

What is “losing testimony”? Losing faith, or willful rejection? Not familiar with the jargon.


44 posted on 06/16/2011 10:25:23 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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