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To: Salvation

Yeah, we all know what God can do and what he did through his son, but many people tend to forget and Mary was no different than anyone else.

Matt 12 46 to 50
While he yet talked to the people, behold , his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him. 47 Then one said unto him, Behold , thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. 48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? 49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said , Behold my mother and my brethren! 50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

The above verses show pretty plainly that the mother and brethren of Jesus were not his followers, if they had been his followers they would not have been without disiring to speak to him, they would have felt free to go right in.


170 posted on 06/16/2011 5:23:52 PM PDT by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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To: ravenwolf

I guess you are forgetting some verses in Luke...Are you being selective?

“Hail, Mary, full of grace.” The angel, Gabriel to the Blessed Virgin Mary.

“Bleesed are you among women.” is Elizabeth’s greeting later on. “Blessed is the fruit of your womb.:

“How is it that the mother of my Lord should visit me?”

Please consider those quotes too.

Mary was special.....she carried the Savior in her womb.

I pity the people who don’t think that she was special. Woe to them who mock the Mother of the Lord. (My quote)

Wouldn’t that be a sin against the Holy Spirit? After all Mary conceived Christ in her womb through the Holy Spirit. So in my judgment when people fail to accept that fact they are sinning against the Holy Spirit — the one sin that cannot be forgiven.


172 posted on 06/16/2011 5:46:43 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ravenwolf

This was what is called a “teachable moment”.

The conclusion reached by you and others regarding this passage is not anywhere to be found in the actual words of the passage.

In the first place, the passage says that Jesus is speaking to the crowd, not the disciples. We know that He points to His disciples, but are these the ones who wish to speak to Him or the crowd? The passage doesn’t say.

What it does say is that Jesus tells them if one does the will of the Father in heaven, then one is His brother or sister(a child of God) and His mother.

It is a great leap to conclude from this that they were not His followers. Mary was not His follower? Really? Did she think He was crazy, possessed or a drunk as we are told the people of Nazareth thought of Him.

Further proof of the extremes to which people will go to keep from admitting that Mary was of any significance other than having birthed Him and changed His diapers.

Mary followed Him all the way to the cross.


182 posted on 06/16/2011 6:35:47 PM PDT by Jvette
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