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To: NYer; achilles2000

Sadly, he’s right. Once upon a time, Catholics were not allowed to join the Boy or Girl Scouts and had their own alternatives and, eventually, special chapters.

One of the original reasons for this was that Scouting was very anti-Catholic (founded by what would now be considered Evangelical Protestants, during their late 19th-early 20th century “muscular Christianity” phase) and also that it was devoted to the secular religion.

Sadly, yesterday’s secular religion looks like total Christian orthodoxy compared to what they are pushing today. And the Evangelicals have abandoned it, too, so the only folks left (at any rate, those in charge) are complete secularists.

We need to revive the Scouting alternatives.


5 posted on 06/03/2011 2:19:34 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

“We need to revive the Scouting alternatives.”

Navy Sea Cadets
Civil Air Patrol
Appleseeds (for marksmanship)
ummm . . . Fathers teaching their boys and girls . . .

My ten-year-old knows more about camping, knots, shooting and survival than my 17-year-old boyscout neighbor. I don’t mean offense, but “pass a test, get a badge and move on” isn’t teaching what the scouts used to teach. Badges get Eagle Scout and Eagle Scout helps get into some colleges and military academies.

The symbols of achievement have become the achievement. That is pointless.


9 posted on 06/03/2011 2:44:00 PM PDT by cizinec
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To: livius
Sadly, he’s right. Once upon a time, Catholics were not allowed to join the Boy or Girl Scouts and had their own alternatives and, eventually, special chapters.

How long ago? I attended catholic school beginning in the 50s and they were very supportive of the Boy and Girl Scouts. The diocese also ran CYO day camps during the summer.

19 posted on 06/04/2011 6:07:44 AM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: livius

One of my nephews is in Royal Rangers and his sister is in (I think it’s called) King’s Daughters. I don’t know if that’s just their church or if they’re part of a larger organization.


23 posted on 06/04/2011 11:11:20 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: livius
"One of the original reasons for this was that Scouting was very anti-Catholic (founded by what would now be considered Evangelical Protestants, during their late 19th-early 20th century “muscular Christianity” phase) and also that it was devoted to the secular religion."

Nope.

53 posted on 06/06/2011 1:39:49 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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