Maybe doomsday is near

WND ^ | May 28, 2011 | Joseph Farrah

[Quix]

To me, Rockefeller’s own statement on p 405 of his autobiography is not greatly different from the disputed Bildeberger quote. It’s mostly a difference of intensity, starkness.

Such folks are logically softer in more public arenas.

[Quix]

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

[HereInTheHeartland]

A bit of Fred Phelpish logic....

[Quix]

LOL.

Thanks for your kind words.

Sorry I keep forgetting about your poor hearing.

Actually, you could probably watch the Shaw video with the text I transcribed—though 99% of the text is on the screen as well—at least you could verify that his mouth is moving as a mouth would move speaking those words.

I still end up thinking that you certainly have covered the issue of solid verifiable sources and their vetting and the yield of that on credibility far, far better than I.

That still leaves hanging or does not deal at all well with the issue of how does anyone arrive at any sense of even probable truth in an area where a great deal of power and financial resources goes into keeping very powerful and deadly forces and goals hidden, secret, . . . the waters muddied with all manner of false, partially false out-right disinformation etc.

By the time such things are proven in quadruplicate, the party’s over.

I realize that we can say as believers that all is handled within God’s hands and will, nevertheless.

And that’s certainly true.

And there’s certainly great spiritual truth and comfort in taking no thought for tomorrow; being anxious for nothing; trusting His careful care etc.

And, there’s access to The Lord in prayer and still listening to Holy Spirit to prepare each day regardless of whatever priorities are looming or possibly looming.

Yet, there are millions of Christians who are more than faulty in such matters . . . who are blithely pretending or convinced that business as usualy will accompany all the days of their lives. They pay more attention to the MSM, sometimes, than even their Bibles—some most of the time more than their Bibles.

And even some who are well read in their Bibles see absolutely no congruence between daily news items and Biblical prophecies being fulfilled at an increasing pace and with increasing degrees of fulfillment.

Some such have, in my experience—here and overseas—found the Lord’s Holy Spirit to use my inputs on such matters to awaken their understanding and spiritual lives regarding the day we live in.

I still feel enough of a press to cry the alert . . . that to wait for the quality of sources and vetting standard you set—would seem—oddly—irresponsible—the party would be well over, first.

I don’t see a way around that . . . conundrum.

[marbren]

The Church is His Temple. (His Body) Eph 2: 21-22; 1 Pet2:5-9, etc. etc.

To me, IMHO, the closer we get to God the greater the distance between us. One of those paradoxes. We will be one with God in the eternal state but his awesomeness then will be infinitely more awesome then than I imagine it now. Even when my relationship started on earth I was like Colton who met Jesus in "Heaven is For Real". He was my friend. Now My Lord Jesus Christ is starting to show me how awesome he truly is. I am part of the body of Christ but he is the head. There will be a separation. Another analogy is husband and wife. The true church is the Bride of Christ.

Ephesians 4:15 (New International Version) Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ.

Why you would bring him into this is bizarre in the extreme. You really ARE confused.

I can imagine Gagdad Bob's book saying in the end We are God. No Thanks

[Matchett-PI]

You wrote: “I am part of the body of Christ but he is the head. There will be a separation. Another analogy is husband and wife. The true church is the Bride of Christ.”

Oops! You just contradicted your friend:

Your friend wrote: “[The nation of] Israel [is] the apple of God’s eye, they are His chosen people, He calls Himself their “husband”...”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2726515/posts?page=157#157

But what DO the Scriptures say?:

Bride of Christ (cf. Rev 21:9; Eph 5:22-33) and Body of Christ (cf. 1Cor 12:27) . are terms used to refer to the total community of Christians seen as interdependent in a single entity headed by Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians 11:2
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+11%3A2&version=NIV

I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him.

Ephesians 5:22-33
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Eph%205:22-33;&version=ESV;

Wives and Husbands

Wives, submit to your own husbands,as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.

Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. In the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church, because we are members of his body. Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” This mystery is profound, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church. However, let each one of you love his wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.

Revelation 21:9
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+21%3A9&version=ESV

The New Jerusalem

Then came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues and spoke to me, saying, “Come, I will show you the Bride, the wife of the Lamb.”

The Bride of Christ or bride, the Lamb’s wife is one of the metaphors used in the New Testament. Ephesians 5:22-33 compares the union of husband and wife to that of Christ and the church.

The ekkl sia is never explicitly called the bride of Christ in the New Testament. That is approached in Ephesians 5:22-33 and in Revelation 21:9. A major analogy is that of the body. Just as husband and wife are to be “one flesh,”[Eph. 5:31] this analogy for the writer describes the relationship of Christ and ekkl sia (v. 32). Husbands were exhorted to love their wives “just as Christ loved the ekkl sia and gave himself for it (v. 25). When Christ nourishes and cherishes the ekkl sia, he nourishes and cherishes his own flesh. Members of the ekkl sia are “members of his own body” (vv. 29-30).

As one metaphor for the Church, the “Bride of Christ” reflects that any relationship between humans and God can only be hinted at and poorly described using any earthly terms. Although the role of bride and bridegroom captures some aspects of our relationship with God, demonstrating the strength of God’s love for us and His eternal commitment to those who chose Him, many other aspects of our relationship with God cannot be described using this metaphor (or any other human concept).

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1 Corinthians 12:27
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1Cor%2012:27;&version=ESV;

Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it.

Christians are members of the universal body of Christ through identification with Christ directly through faith. This is based on several passages in the Bible, including Romans 12:5,1 Corinthians 12:12-27, Ephesians 3:6 and 5:23, Colossians 1:18 and Colossians 1:24. Jesus Christ is seen as the “head” of the body, which is the church, while the “members” of the body are seen as members of the Church.

Galatians 3:29
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+3%3A29&version=NASB

And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.

Romans 2:28-29
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+2%3A28-29&version=NIV

A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.

Philippians 3:2-3
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+3%3A2-3&version=NASB

Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of the false circumcision; for we are the true circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh..

[Matchett-PI]

I wrote: “Why you would bring him into this is bizarre in the extreme. You really ARE confused.”

You replied: “I can imagine Gagdad Bob’s book saying in the end We are God. No Thanks.”

You really ARE confused. AND you have a GREAT “imagination”.

On the other hand, here are just a few sampliings of the facts:

Gagdad Bob: “We are not God”:

Sunday, August 23, 2009
Truth and Me: A Love Story
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8580258&postID=5860653609687740421

Schuon goes into the four essential limitations or “infirmities” of the soul, one of which touches on the issue I raised above about the universal and the particular.

We begin with the Big One. Yes, we are not God. We are “creature, not Creator, manifestation and not Principle or Being.” I am certainly aware of this. In fact, only the godless can be unaware of the fact that they are not God, which is one of the great sources of their mischief.

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Thursday, August 27, 2009
The Business of Isness: What Is Is and Isn’t
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8580258&postID=4988032674953176521

Therefore, it is just another way of acknowledging that we are not God. But we knew that already. It’s the atheists who don’t know.

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Saturday, April 26, 2008
Lumin Beings & Loony Moonbats
http://onecosmos.blogspot.com/2008/04/lumin-beings-loony-moonbats.html

The moon is not the sun, and we are not God. But we can become receptacles or “luminaries,” that is, lumin beings who ride the wild soph on waves of divine light.

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Thursday, June 25, 2009
Image is Everything: Man and Other Mirrorcles of the Absolute
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8580258&postID=1184307754276496718

While God must have an absolute truth known only to himself, down here we partake of relative existence. In short, we are not God.

[marbren]

Good to hear we are not God I guess I'll finish the book then. I enjoyed the first half. Matter and Life. I have yet to read Mind and Spirit. The book I am talking about for you that do not know is “One Cosmos under God” by Robert W. Godwin, Ph.D. Matchett-PI Told me about Gagdad Bob which is Dr Godwin's blog name. I found his book on his blog. It does get you to think outside the box which is always a worthwhile mental exercise.

[marbren]

I agree!

[GiovannaNicoletta]

BTW, marbren, here is the Scripture that proves that God's word is without error and absolutely true:

For your husband is your Maker, whose name is the LORD of hosts; and your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel, Who is called the God of all the earth. (Isaiah 54:5)

That's God calling Himself Israel's "Husband" which would then make Israel the "wife" of God.

Then there is this:

I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. (2 Cor 11.2)

And there is Jesus Christ calling the true Church His "Bride".

Isn't that amazing? Israel is called the "wife" of God, and the Church is called the "bride" of Christ!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the subject, dear brother in Christ!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you for sharing your testimony, dear brother in Christ!

[marbren]

Isn't that amazing? Israel is called the "wife" of God, and the Church is called the "bride" of Christ!

I agree. I know I have read those verses many times without considering what they are saying. Is this a new light bulb moment for you? Are you studying the context now? I am sure I understand through a glass dimly.

[Quix]

Here’s some interesting links from WIH:

Check out these short videos.

SUN CORONAL MASS EJECTION WARNING JOHN GORMAN NASA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCNCSNhq630&feature=youtu.be

Comet Elenin And The Event 2011 (Read Description)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cqA8puV15c&feature=feedf

Two Suns Rise In Hawaii (story on Before It’s News)—from CFH OBSERVATORY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-3d-N6GGoo&feature=feedlik

!!UPSIDEDOWN TORNADO!! Never seen one like this!.mp4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI66AQFjQME&feature=feedlik

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the links!

[Matchett-PI]

“..’Israel is called the “wife” of God, and the Church is called the “bride” of Christ!’” ~ #170

You replied: “I agree. ...”

Then you’ll have to _legitimately_ deal with, and not ignore or dismiss, Scriptures like this:

Paul calls the Church the bride of Christ and John speaks of marriage of the Lamb, where the bride is the church and the Lamb is Christ.

For I am jealous over you with Godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one Husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. [2 Corinthians 11:2]

Let us rejoice and be exceeding glad, and let us give the glory unto him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and ___his wife___ hath made herself ready.

And it was given unto her that she should array herself in fine linen, bright and pure: for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints. Revelation 19:7-8]

In Ephesians 5 Paul says that the relationship of a husband and his wife is to model the relationship of Christ and His church.

Although this bride of Christ (the church) is made up of innumerable Christians, it is never referred to in the plural, but always in the singular. One bride… one wife.

Galatians 3:29
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+3%3A29&version=NASB

And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.

Romans 2:28-29
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+2%3A28-29&version=NIV

A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.

Philippians 3:2-3
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Philippians+3%3A2-3&version=NASB

Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of the false circumcision; for we are the true circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh..

[FredZarguna]

EVERY primitive tribe believed they were God's chosen people. There is nothing remotely unique about the Israelite claim.

Why is every other religion in human history either mythological or else historically founded by some human being?

[Zionist Conspirator]

EVERY primitive tribe believed they were God's chosen people. There is nothing remotely unique about the Israelite claim.

I didn't say the Israelites were the only people to claim to have been chosen by G-d or "gxds." I said they are the only people who claim a national revelation. Do you have any idea in the world what that means? It means while every other religion in history is either pre-historical/mythological or else was founded by a human being or group of human beings, only the Israelites claim that their entire nation, at a certain date in history, heard the voice of G-d speaking to them. That's some three million people who heard G-d's Voice and passed it down to their children and grandchildren. Not some hoary legend. Not some guy telling them this stuff.

You obviously are avoiding the issue because it doesn't square with your dogmatic beliefs.

[FredZarguna]

I’m not avoiding it: It’s baloney.

[Zionist Conspirator]

I’m not avoiding it: It’s baloney.

You're avoiding it for dogmatic reasons. Your dogmas refuse to admit the possibility of such a thing, so you pretend it isn't there. Some "free thinker" you are.

A national revelation as the foundation of a religion has occurred once and only once in all human history. Every other religion is either mythological or was founded by people. The Revelation of Sinai is the one and only exception.

Day after tomorrow is the 3223rd anniversay of this event, ironically enough.