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To: xone
Do you have a racial problem?

That is one of the issues at the church.

What is the major dysfunction you see at your church? Without that knowledge you are wasting my time since you appear to be attempting research vice asking for advice from a co-religionist.

You may be right I do appreciate your input so far. If you do not want to discuss any further I understand. You did open my eyes about maybe I was too broad in assuming my church was typical in the LCMS. Maybe it is dysfunctional.

I am trying to figure out the best way to unfold my story. Also, I am still not sure if it is my local church dysfunction or LCMS dysfunction. It is easy to say the LCMS is fine, but is it?

The villains to me are the self righteous congregation members and thanks to your input I'll now say some instead of all synod officials I have met. I feel they are pharisees.

I know the fruits of the church members because I was a pharisee with them and have known them all my life. They chose the pharisee road with Pastor P#4, I was faithful to my calling. The synod officials I have met only briefly. Now with your input I must reassess my judgment. Maybe they were just uninformed about my church dysfunction. LCMS DP is a pharisee however, I have known him all my life. The process I have been through with the truth that came with P#4 opened my eyes to this fact. A tree is known by its fruits. The LCMS president may have been working with bad information. Some of his actions were not appropriate.

My church is presently in a schism worshiping in 2 locations.

837 posted on 05/28/2011 10:08:44 AM PDT by marbren
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To: marbren
My church is presently in a schism worshiping in 2 locations.

That's a shame, which group left? If you do not want to discuss any further I understand.

I haven't been discussing anything, outside of the cryptic references you've made and the 'pride' deal this is the first info you have allowed.

I wouldn't be too glib about tossing the word Pharisee when describing other. Just because one doesn't agree with you doesn't make one pharisaical. They are supposedly all Christians first that have an unknown disagreement. There are good reasons to disagree by the way.

840 posted on 05/28/2011 10:30:46 AM PDT by xone
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To: marbren
It is easy to say the LCMS is fine, but is it?

It is even easier to blame 'them' for one's own problem.

841 posted on 05/28/2011 10:33:34 AM PDT by xone
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