GN wrote:
“Can you give me the year(s) when Jesus Christ sat on the throne of David and ruled over Israel? Because the Scripture given speaks of a literal thousand year kingdom - not some allegorized, meaningless pile of nothing. Can you give me the year(s) when Jesus Christ sat on the throne of David and ruled over Israel? Because the Scripture given speaks of a literal thousand year kingdom - not some allegorized, meaningless pile of nothing.”
You are doing exactly what I said, demanding that the entire Holy Scriptures be interpreted through the lens of Revelation 20. This is like the game that is played by the Romanists, where every time you show them to be wrong in the Bible they turn to their assertion that the Roman Magisterium and only the Roman Magisterium can interpret the Bible, pointing to Matthew 16:19. Anything contrary to their interpretation is “some allegorized, meaningless pile of nothing.”
You have built your certainty on Revelation 20. And all the verses that you have piled on your false interpretation of it prove nothing, for they were put to false use. You have built your house on the sand of your “literal” millenium and it will be as Jesus said in Matthew 7:26-27. I have built on the spiritual Rock that followed Israel from Egypt to Canaan, which Rock is Christ. And thus it will be as Jesus said in Matthew 7:24-25.
You spend so much time scanning headlines for the latest signs to undergird your notions about the Bible (much like others read every story of this or that apparition of Mary or image of Jesus in a burnt piece of toast) and arguing with people on FR. Don’t you ever consider whether it is time well spent?
Again, I will let the readers determine who has let the Holy Scriptures speak and who has clouded them. As they do, let them consider whether you have really answered my post with your screechy demands.
I will rest in Christ my Lord, the Light to lighten the Gentiles and the Glory of His people Israel.
No, I'm really not. I'm actually referring to the wealth of Old Testament Scripture that speaks about the future Millennial Reign. All Revelation 20 does is tell how long the kingdom will last. It doesn't hold a candle to all the Scripture throughout the OT that talks of the literal, 1000 reign of Christ.
You have built your certainty on Revelation 20.
This simply is not going to work for you. This isn't about Revelation 20.
And all the verses that you have piled on your false interpretation of it prove nothing, for they were put to false use.
But you can't show how either the interpretation was false or how it was "put to false use". You have no Biblical response to the article. You've already been wrong twice about Revelation 20.
You have built your house on the sand of your “literal” millenium and it will be as Jesus said in Matthew 7:26-27.
If Christ gives literal descriptions of what His kingdom will be like, does that then mean that the kingdom is not literal?
You spend so much time scanning headlines for the latest signs to undergird your notions about the Bible (much like others read every story of this or that apparition of Mary or image of Jesus in a burnt piece of toast) and arguing with people on FR. Don’t you ever consider whether it is time well spent?
Does this fall into the category of making the thread about a particular poster?
Anyway, you're wrong again. What Bible-believing Christians do is, for example, see the passage in Zechariah 12:3 about the entire world coming against Israel in the last days, and how God will make Jerusalem a burdensome stone in the last days, and then we see it happening right in front of us. That's not the same as "scanning headlines". That's taking the word of God literally, as He intended for it to be taken, and not assigning other meanings to the Scripture, or taking away from what God intended for us to know. "Scanning headlines" is another crutch used by people who assign their own meanings to Scripture to deny the actual, true meaning of the word of God.
We actually accept the Bible as God wrote it instead of taking it upon ourselves, with no authority from God whatsoever, to allegorize and spiritualize the Bible into meaninglessness and then feeling threatened by those who take the Bible as God wrote it and not as how we wish it were.
Again, I will let the readers determine who has let the Holy Scriptures speak and who has clouded them. As they do, let them consider whether you have really answered my post with your screechy demands.
Oh, absolutely. Let the readers decide who took the Scriptures, both Old Testament and New, about the future, literal kingdom of Christ, and made the case for taking the Bible as God wrote it instead of the thousands and thousands of different meanings that those who allegorize Scripture manage to come up with on their own. Let the readers decide who is "clouding" the Scriptures when Jesus Christ gives a detailed description of what conditions will be like during His thousand year reign, and then they get to read how all those details are really meaningless, that what Jesus really meant was that His kingdom is in the "hearts" of people.
I agree. Let the reader decide.
And I made "screechy demands"? If you don't want to be questioned on something, then don't make the statement.