Posted on 05/21/2011 4:46:26 AM PDT by marbren
Camping is a victim of replacement theology. IMHO the lie of replacement theology is almost as insidious as idolatry. The key to holistic understanding of Bible prophecy is to understand the role of Israel in it. God keeps his promises to Israel. This is a model to the rest of us that he will keep his promises to us as well.
A majority of the church going world has been victimized. I believed the lie for 35 years. During the past 20 I have been seeking the truth and only recently did I stop saying IMHO replacement theology is a lie and replaced it with: Replacement theology is a lie dropping the IMHO. For those that do not know, Replacement theology is the lie that the Church has replaced Israel in God’s plan.
The church was polluted by Replacement theology early on. Origen and Augustine, early Fathers of the church, were the first to muddy up the scriptures in this way when they arrogantly took on the mantle of Israel for themselves. Martin Luther apparently did not study it and this lead to his anti-Semitism and Hitler. In many ways IMHO it is like a reverse of the circumcision party that led to Acts 15.
This replacement theology lie has lead to the church we have today. Everyone is running around not knowing what is happening in these end times we are in. The truth is The Church, the Bride of Christ, has a role and Israel has a role. Think of men and women, children and parents, husbands and wives, angels and people, dogs and cats, sheep and goats, wheat and tares. All these have roles God invented.
So the solution: Open your Bible, drop your preconceived notions and open your mind, ask God to reveal the truth about all this Israel stuff written in the Bible. The Lord Jesus Christ is central in it all. Gods Grace and Mercy is incredible, He does all the work. Faith and hope and love permeate the entire Bible and the greatest of these is love.
i wouldn’t waste your energy on those with reprobate minds.
further proof Church = Israel
The Church is the Bride of Christ.
Is God a Mormon that He has two spouses, Israel and The Church?
Hi one Lord one faith one baptism, I am just curious are you Lutheran?
Is God a Mormon that He has two spouses, Israel and The Church?
That, and they want you to believe that there is wife swapping taking place between the Son and the Father - how do you explain Jews coming to Christ? Who is St Paul married to?
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Thanks.
Oh yes, our dear oLofob just lurves him some Martin Luther. /s
This should be good, lol.
Interesting, This may help answer my heresy concern or false memory. Do you have any links that talk this way? Is it a Mormon concept?
There's no "proof" to begin with so there can't be "further" proof. You have posted not one verse of Scripture where God said that the Church is Israel. Your opinion does not trump Scripture. God never says that the Church is Israel. You are entitled to your opinion, but just don't try to claim that it is Scriptural. It is not.
Is God a Mormon that He has two spouses, Israel and The Church?
Is there no point at which you will stop denying Scripture?
The rapture is not the second coming.
Camping didn’t use Sola Scripture. To think so is absurd on its face. If he was using Sola Scripture he would have included the fact that scripture says no one knows the day or hour, not even Jesus but the Father only.
There are some passages in Isaiah which speak of the fact that the Jews will be given all the land promised to them and that God will not forsake them. God refers to Himself as Israel's "husband" here:For your husband is your Maker, Whose name is the LORD of hosts; And your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel, Who is called the God of all the earth. (Isaiah 54:5)
Off the top of my head, also multiple times in Ezekiel, and the whole thing with Hosea and his whorish wife.
I have heard people from the dispensationalist school say that God (presumably God the father) has Israel as spouse, and the Church is the bride of Christ (God the son). And, because of the axiomatic Church/Israel distinction this is not a NT development of an OT theme, but two distinct spouses.
Ever hear the phrase "reductio ad absurdum"?
Better read the first commandment - I cover it there.
And you sound like the landlord. That isn't the 'heaven' I'm talking about.
My perspective is based on what Obama did this week watch out USA. IMO much of our prosperity and blessings as a nation is due to our support of Israel since 1948.
The rapture is not the second coming.
Because He's never seen and never touches down? Really? Where does it say that?
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