Bless Mr. Barber for trying and bless you, my dear FRiend, for hoping that we could get somewhere. But, alas, the anti-Catholic swamp of vitriol is impenetrable here.
Oh, please. Can't people voice that they don't agree with something on an OPEN thread without being "anti-Catholic" or their words "vitriol"? What makes threads "impenetrable swamps" is gratuitous rhetoric.