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Catholic scholar dismantles May 21 Judgment Day claims
cna ^ | May 20, 2011 | Marianne Medlin

Posted on 05/20/2011 11:09:10 AM PDT by NYer

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To: bibletruth

I thought the woman in Revelation 12 was the Whore of Babylon. I guess I need to read it again.


21 posted on 05/20/2011 11:50:33 AM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: Celtic Cross

They park outside our Cathedral and spew their hatred and leaflet the pews.

We finally got a special parking designation to protect that space so that funeral directors and people related to funerals and weddings could park outside the doors. The big vans of the Catholic-haters used to get there at dawn and occupy the spaces all day with vans painted with slogans like “Whore of Babylon”, “Sinners Burn in Hell,” etc.

Can you imagine the press if Catholics attacked Protestants in the same way? But we rise above that and we pray for them, because they are simply misguided.


22 posted on 05/20/2011 11:50:37 AM PDT by livius
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To: bibletruth
‘aint nobody going to Heaven cept me and mine!’.

I hope that the thought of just how few ‘make the cut’ (according to you) makes you feel good about yourself.

23 posted on 05/20/2011 11:53:54 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

I don’t worry about it. People speculate on the end of the world, but no pope or bishop has ever had people out on their rooftops waiting for it.

Still, I can’t hate these poor folk. They’re poorly educated on any level, have somehow scraped up the money to do this (and I have lived in a place where I knew somebody whose husband had a “church” in his garage where he collected big bucks from about 10 little old Protestant ladies), and probably do believe what they’re saying.

That’s why they need to come back to the Church. When people go off on their own, the Devil is watching and waiting.


24 posted on 05/20/2011 11:56:47 AM PDT by livius
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To: bibletruth

I judge not.


25 posted on 05/20/2011 11:58:51 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Is it 2012 yet?)
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To: bibletruth
"Rev 12+Mary is a private interpretation by a group of like minded interpreters..."

The entire Protestant circus train comes off the tracks when you get down to the argument over authority to interpret Scripture. Your argument is that your "private" interpretation is superior to the "private" interpretation of the teaching authority of the institution that, under the direct guidance of the Holy Spirit, preserved, published and defended the Bible. As so eloquently stated at scripturecatholic.com:

"Scripture reveals this Church to be the one Jesus Christ built upon the rock of Saint Peter (Matt. 16:18). By giving Peter the keys of authority (Matt. 16:19), Jesus appointed Peter as the chief steward over His earthly kingdom (cf. Isaiah. 22:19-22). Jesus also charged Peter to be the source of strength for the rest of the apostles (Luke 22:32) and the earthly shepherd of Jesus' flock (John 21:15-17). Jesus further gave Peter, and the apostles and elders in union with him, the power to bind and loose in heaven what they bound and loosed on earth. (Matt. 16:19; 18:18). This teaching authority did not die with Peter and the apostles, but was transferred to future bishops through the laying on of hands (e.g., Acts 1:20; 6:6; 13:3; 8:18; 9:17; 1 Tim. 4:14; 5:22; 2 Tim. 1:6).

By virtue of this divinely-appointed authority, the Catholic Church determined the canon of Scripture (what books belong in the Bible) at the end of the fourth century. We therefore believe in the Scriptures on the authority of the Catholic Church. After all, nothing in Scripture tells us what Scriptures are inspired, what books belong in the Bible, or that Scripture is the final authority on questions concerning the Christian faith. Instead, the Bible says that the Church, not the Scriptures, is the pinnacle and foundation of the truth (1 Tim. 3:15) and the final arbiter on questions of the Christian faith (Matt. 18:17). It is through the teaching authority and Apostolic Tradition (2 Thess. 2:15; 3:6; 1 Cor. 11:2) of this Church, who is guided by the Holy Spirit (John 14:16,26; 16:13), that we know of the divine inspiration of the Scriptures, and the manifold wisdom of God. (cf. Ephesians 3:10).

I hope that this site gives Catholics the biblical and patristic knowledge they need to answer questions about their faith, and helps them rediscover the truth of their faith as taught by Sacred Scripture. I further pray that non-Catholics come to recognize that God's gift of salvation comes only through Jesus Christ and His Catholic Church. I also pray that each one of us grows more deeply in love with Jesus as we become better Bible Christians (or, rather, "Scripture Catholics")."

26 posted on 05/20/2011 12:10:23 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Celtic Cross

You can have your “ISM” and be glad... I know that I have a personal relationship with my Savior and Father, FOR I am DECLARED a son of God in Romans 8:14-16. My relationship with my Father is this: God is my Father, I am His son as a saved Saint - Believer. Christ is my savior for He died for all my sins, past, present, future; He rose from the dead: I have faith alone in Christ alone. There is nothing that the Catholics can do for my salvation, nor can they take away my salvation: for it is ALL OF God and Christ; no man can take away my salvation. Praise Christ my LORD and savior.


27 posted on 05/20/2011 12:27:16 PM PDT by bibletruth
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To: livius

For amusement, some pretty stout folks have been taken in:

Saint Clement I 100

Saint Martin of Tours 400

(Antipope) Hippolytus predicted 500

Germans went completely off the rails late 900s

1000-MAY: The body of Charlemagne was disinterred on Pentecost. A legend had arisen that an emperor would rise from his sleep to fight the Antichrist.

1033 -— lots of folks

1284 (Pope Innocent III computed this date by adding 666 years onto the date the Islam was founded — not a bad guess, IMHO)

1689: Benjamin Keach, a 17th century Baptist

1792: This was the date of the end of the world calculated by some believers in the Shaker movement.

1794: Charles Wesley, one of the founders of Methodism


28 posted on 05/20/2011 12:28:59 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
1284 (Pope Innocent III computed this date by adding 666 years onto the date the Islam was founded — not a bad guess, IMHO)

LOL! Well, maybe his calculations were off...but Islam, a syncretist fraud that is the anti-Christianity and anti-Judaism, will most likely have something to do with it.

Still, we know not the hour...

29 posted on 05/20/2011 12:42:57 PM PDT by livius
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To: sodpoodle
I judge not, except to foster what Paul said to Timothy (2Tim): All scripture is given by inspiration of Bid, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnish unto all good works.

I judge not, but remember what our Lord said: Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and NARROW is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it.

I judge not: for Christ has already judged this matter, and I am free to reflect and bring it up for edification; so consider youself edified by a true believer In Christ.

So the truth is this: not many, not even a lot, of those souls you mentioned ever reach heaven based on the teachings of Christ Jesus.

30 posted on 05/20/2011 12:46:13 PM PDT by bibletruth
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To: Ingtar
Revelation 12: the primary focus is about the geneology of Israel giving birth to Christ, by a Jewish woman, who also needed salvation, and Satan's attempt to kill thee Christ.

The Whore of Revelation basically begins in Revelation 17.

31 posted on 05/20/2011 12:57:05 PM PDT by bibletruth
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To: bibletruth
"I am His son as a saved Saint"

There is nothing that the Catholics can do for my salvation

MY GOD, MY CHRIST, MY SAVIOR and neither me has ADDED (and neither me? As in 'me and God?')

and I am free to reflect and bring it up for edification; so consider youself edified by a true believer In Christ."

And quite a humble character you are too.

32 posted on 05/20/2011 1:07:13 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: bibletruth
"So the truth is this: not many, not even a lot, of those souls you mentioned ever reach heaven based on the teachings of Christ Jesus."

So you have a direct line to heaven? You get the inside scoop on who is there and who isn't?

33 posted on 05/20/2011 1:08:19 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: bibletruth

yu got that rite!


34 posted on 05/20/2011 1:14:23 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Is it 2012 yet?)
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To: Celtic Cross

Gud thing God don’t giv spellin tests;)

tee hee.


35 posted on 05/20/2011 1:18:32 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Is it 2012 yet?)
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To: bibletruth

Who’s the woman?


36 posted on 05/20/2011 1:25:48 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray. For all the latest, check out: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/)
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To: bibletruth
Wow!

Thorium might help.

37 posted on 05/20/2011 1:28:56 PM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: bibletruth
The true Church always welcomes back those who have fallen away.
38 posted on 05/20/2011 1:32:07 PM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: bibletruth

Because no passage of Scripture ever had dual meanings did it? Passages only mean one thing and one thing alone, do they?

I marvel at this logic....I am supposed to read this chapter about a *woman giving birth to the Redeemer* and not once—NOT EVER—think of Our Lady Mary.

Stuff and nonsense. As if St. John was that stupid of a writer.


39 posted on 05/20/2011 1:40:02 PM PDT by Claud
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To: bibletruth

And the connection between the original post and your discourse on Mary and the Revelation to John is ......?


40 posted on 05/20/2011 1:48:19 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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