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Pets in Heaven? (Especially on May 21st)
EWTN.com ^ | not given | Dr. Richard Geraghty, PhD

Posted on 05/18/2011 2:31:49 PM PDT by Salvation

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To: Persevero

It was because of our “fallen natures” and also because of such, the animals became fearful of us.


281 posted on 05/19/2011 3:21:29 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: DManA

When Jesus went to the cross, the need for animal sacriface ended.


282 posted on 05/19/2011 3:22:46 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Salvation

If our sacramental marriage won’t survive in heaven, then it seems a bit much to think our affection for pets will matter in heaven.


283 posted on 05/19/2011 3:22:59 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Salvation

I love animals so much I don’t think people should own them; I married a woman from a country where their language doesn’t have a word for “pet” (in Spanish they use “domesticated animal”, the same as a farm animal).


284 posted on 05/19/2011 3:42:06 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Salvation

Heaven could not amount to much without animals.


285 posted on 05/19/2011 3:42:51 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Salvation

In regards to the May 21st hype and pets...I found this website, quite by accident the other day. Somebody’s trying to “cash in”...not sure if it’s a joke or legit, but it’s strange.

http://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/Home_Page.html


286 posted on 05/19/2011 3:56:03 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Salvation

I trust God to know what is best. There is no doubt, He does what is right and just. I have no concerns about any animal’s spirit, God created them and God will take care of them. God created this world for us. There are many creatures in the kingdom of God, I’m sure they all sing praise.


287 posted on 05/19/2011 4:03:50 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Persevero
Straw man.

Sorry my FRiends, to say that Jesus died to save the soul of your pet really, really cheapens the gospel.

No one said anything even remotely like this. Not even close. Not even in the same universe.

288 posted on 05/19/2011 4:19:59 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: mlizzy

Ahhh sad...


289 posted on 05/19/2011 4:28:28 AM PDT by geege
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To: Salvation
Now for the rhetorical question false dichotomy:

What is more important? Being in heaven with God or being with your pet?

Fixed it. :-)

290 posted on 05/19/2011 4:33:07 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Secret Agent Man

I read something similar to what you posted; that God created animals so they are “infused” with His spirit. They don’t have “souls”, as such, because they don’t have the free will to reject God and have no need to be saved. They can give us comfort and love. God sends His love in many ways. Sometimes humans are lacking in love and He gives us pets to fill that gap. When they die, their spirits return to THE spirit who created them. Where God is, there is heaven. Love never goes out of existence.


291 posted on 05/19/2011 5:14:16 AM PDT by NewCenturions
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To: Persevero; Onelifetogive
"... because the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and obtain the glorious liberty of the children of God."
... from the very interesting Romans 8:18-25.

It seems to me that God will provide the very best for us, that there will be no sorrow or sighing.

Right now, it is hard for me to imagine that I would not sigh without my pets.

[Scene at Immigration: Mad Dawg, accompanied by a party of about 20 cats, 6 dogs, a dozen goats, two gross of sheep, and a cow.]

But, my vision is dull, and I would not presume to tell God what I need to be happy. If God were to say, "Will you have me or your dog?" how could I say, "Well, not you, thanks." It would be to say, "You, O Lord, cannot make me happy."

But I also think that Lewis and MacDonald are right. (see post 14)

292 posted on 05/19/2011 5:16:55 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Onelifetogive
The source for this line of thought is going to be Aristotle's De Anima and the relevant sections of the Summa.

As far as I can tell, the 'soul' (of a non-rational creature, at least) is not a thing but a functioning. "Soul is to living creature as burning is to fire." That's my working analogy. I am certainly open to being corrected in my interpretation of Aristotle or Aquinas.

The reason (not the 'cause') of the rational soul's immortality is that the objects of reason are themselves outside of time. Justice, Love, even "triangleness" do not grow old, and such are the things with which the rational function deals.

293 posted on 05/19/2011 5:24:28 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Can an animal accept Jesus Christ as it’s Lord and Savior?


294 posted on 05/19/2011 5:35:03 AM PDT by Grunthor (RIDE THE CAIN TRAIN!)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I recently found this little book Guardians of Being and loaded it on my Nook. It's a 'a heartwarming, new and original Eckhart Tolle book honoring pets that pairs his spiritual quotes with charming, sweet illustrations by the creator of the "MUTTS" comic strip.'

While it doesn't explore one way or another about whether pets will be in Heaven, it touches upon the importance of how pets bring us into "true happiness is found in the in simple, seeemingly unremarkable things"..."but to be aware of little, quiet hings, yo need to be quiet inside. A high degree of alertness is requires. Be still. Look. Listen. Be present. Being awareness to the many subtle sounds of nature." It's all about unconditional love and being in the Now, things we learn from our pets. A great little book for meditation.

Next time you're in a books store, browse it..it's worth a look see.


295 posted on 05/19/2011 5:58:54 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Don't just live your life, but witness it also.")
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To: Grunthor
"Can an animal accept Jesus Christ as it’s Lord and Savior?"

I guess you haven't been paying much attention to the other commentary on this thread. Certainly most domestic animals can accept a human as their master; I see no reason why they wouldn't be capable of accepting the Lord of all things, and their very creator as such. As far as accepting Him as their Savior, when exactly did they fall into sin? You seem obsessed with the fact that souls are unique to humanity (whic BTW, I agree with), but you somehow casually dismiss or overlook the fact that sin is as well.

Certainly nobody gets to Paradise but through the Lord. Humans have free will and must choose that route. Who are we to say that the Creator would not gather the rest of his creation to Himself? In fact, if you're one of those people who takes the Bible literally, Luke 15 suggests in fact that He will.

296 posted on 05/19/2011 6:28:35 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Persevero
"Will I be worshiping in heaven next to all the chickens, pigs, cows and sheep I have eaten over my lifetime?"

Revelation 5:13

297 posted on 05/19/2011 6:34:20 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: boatbums
No, haven't seen that book but I have read Pub 78 and F990 where inquiring minds can broaden their educational horizons and discover reality. Have a chance to peruse these tomes yet?
298 posted on 05/19/2011 6:48:50 AM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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To: Salvation

It is just our human nature to think that we know what we need to be happy and we’re more than willing to tell God what to do.

Me, personally, I’ve loved several dogs and one cat...a lot, but I am over that, yet the people are a different matter. I still mourn my brother who has been dead for 45 years. I still miss so many people I’ve known in my life and while I remember my pets fondly, I don’t actively mourn them.


299 posted on 05/19/2011 7:07:10 AM PDT by tiki
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for later reading ping


300 posted on 05/19/2011 7:20:08 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman ("...; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee,... "Hosea 4:6)
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