Posted on 05/18/2011 2:31:49 PM PDT by Salvation
It was because of our “fallen natures” and also because of such, the animals became fearful of us.
When Jesus went to the cross, the need for animal sacriface ended.
If our sacramental marriage won’t survive in heaven, then it seems a bit much to think our affection for pets will matter in heaven.
I love animals so much I don’t think people should own them; I married a woman from a country where their language doesn’t have a word for “pet” (in Spanish they use “domesticated animal”, the same as a farm animal).
Heaven could not amount to much without animals.
In regards to the May 21st hype and pets...I found this website, quite by accident the other day. Somebody’s trying to “cash in”...not sure if it’s a joke or legit, but it’s strange.
http://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/Home_Page.html
I trust God to know what is best. There is no doubt, He does what is right and just. I have no concerns about any animal’s spirit, God created them and God will take care of them. God created this world for us. There are many creatures in the kingdom of God, I’m sure they all sing praise.
Sorry my FRiends, to say that Jesus died to save the soul of your pet really, really cheapens the gospel.
No one said anything even remotely like this. Not even close. Not even in the same universe.
Ahhh sad...
What is more important? Being in heaven with God or being with your pet?
Fixed it. :-)
I read something similar to what you posted; that God created animals so they are “infused” with His spirit. They don’t have “souls”, as such, because they don’t have the free will to reject God and have no need to be saved. They can give us comfort and love. God sends His love in many ways. Sometimes humans are lacking in love and He gives us pets to fill that gap. When they die, their spirits return to THE spirit who created them. Where God is, there is heaven. Love never goes out of existence.
It seems to me that God will provide the very best for us, that there will be no sorrow or sighing.
Right now, it is hard for me to imagine that I would not sigh without my pets.
[Scene at Immigration: Mad Dawg, accompanied by a party of about 20 cats, 6 dogs, a dozen goats, two gross of sheep, and a cow.]
But, my vision is dull, and I would not presume to tell God what I need to be happy. If God were to say, "Will you have me or your dog?" how could I say, "Well, not you, thanks." It would be to say, "You, O Lord, cannot make me happy."
But I also think that Lewis and MacDonald are right. (see post 14)
As far as I can tell, the 'soul' (of a non-rational creature, at least) is not a thing but a functioning. "Soul is to living creature as burning is to fire." That's my working analogy. I am certainly open to being corrected in my interpretation of Aristotle or Aquinas.
The reason (not the 'cause') of the rational soul's immortality is that the objects of reason are themselves outside of time. Justice, Love, even "triangleness" do not grow old, and such are the things with which the rational function deals.
Can an animal accept Jesus Christ as it’s Lord and Savior?
While it doesn't explore one way or another about whether pets will be in Heaven, it touches upon the importance of how pets bring us into "true happiness is found in the in simple, seeemingly unremarkable things"..."but to be aware of little, quiet hings, yo need to be quiet inside. A high degree of alertness is requires. Be still. Look. Listen. Be present. Being awareness to the many subtle sounds of nature." It's all about unconditional love and being in the Now, things we learn from our pets. A great little book for meditation.
Next time you're in a books store, browse it..it's worth a look see.
I guess you haven't been paying much attention to the other commentary on this thread. Certainly most domestic animals can accept a human as their master; I see no reason why they wouldn't be capable of accepting the Lord of all things, and their very creator as such. As far as accepting Him as their Savior, when exactly did they fall into sin? You seem obsessed with the fact that souls are unique to humanity (whic BTW, I agree with), but you somehow casually dismiss or overlook the fact that sin is as well.
Certainly nobody gets to Paradise but through the Lord. Humans have free will and must choose that route. Who are we to say that the Creator would not gather the rest of his creation to Himself? In fact, if you're one of those people who takes the Bible literally, Luke 15 suggests in fact that He will.
Revelation 5:13
It is just our human nature to think that we know what we need to be happy and we’re more than willing to tell God what to do.
Me, personally, I’ve loved several dogs and one cat...a lot, but I am over that, yet the people are a different matter. I still mourn my brother who has been dead for 45 years. I still miss so many people I’ve known in my life and while I remember my pets fondly, I don’t actively mourn them.
for later reading ping
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