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On the Imprudence and Uncharitableness of Immodesty
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | May 10, 2011 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 05/12/2011 7:56:10 PM PDT by Salvation

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Will modesty return?

I think it will.

1 posted on 05/12/2011 7:56:14 PM PDT by Salvation
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2 posted on 05/12/2011 7:58:44 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Please,God, let modesty return.


3 posted on 05/12/2011 8:06:31 PM PDT by Palladin (Sarah Palin in 2012!)
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To: Salvation
I quite frankly doubt that dress has much to do with being raped, unless you are dealing with Moslem pigs of course.

Among normal human populations, the rapist will pick a target ahead of time or take an opportunistic chance. The primary calculation is the risk of being caught. Criminals have bad judgment and bad character but they are not stupid and impulse ridden, for the most part.

That having been said, modesty has historically been considered a virtue for good reason, and is its own reward.

4 posted on 05/12/2011 8:08:50 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Salvation
“Women can avoid rape by not dressing as sluts.”

Seems fairly obvious to me...

Thank God I don't have to give a rat's rear end about political correctness.

5 posted on 05/12/2011 8:09:33 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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I am all for modesty but I don’t think statistics bear out the notion that the less modestly dressed get raped more often.


6 posted on 05/12/2011 8:11:57 PM PDT by Persevero (We don't need Superman -- we have the Special Forces)
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To: hinckley buzzard

It probably has more to do with how much alcohol the woman has consumed (or various other mind altering substances)
And
Whether or not she is with someone.

A drunk lady w/ no one to protect her - it won’t matter what she’s wearing.


7 posted on 05/12/2011 8:18:25 PM PDT by Scotswife
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I’m not aware of any stats on dress and attractiveness, but 80% of raped females are under age 30, and age 12 to 34 are supposed to be the risk years, which seems to indicate a selection based on sexual desirability.


8 posted on 05/12/2011 8:21:41 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: Salvation

If you dress like bait, expect to be tackled.


9 posted on 05/12/2011 8:23:36 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Salvation

This is the beginning of shrouding
American women for the sake of Islam.


10 posted on 05/12/2011 8:26:07 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Salvation

Feh, anybody who thinks young women dress immodestly hasn’t been on a college campus lately.


11 posted on 05/12/2011 8:37:50 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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So anything traditionally American, or Christian, or not post 60s liberal, is now Islamic in your eyes?


12 posted on 05/12/2011 8:42:21 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: Last Dakotan
I have.

They all emulate hookers it seems. Its stomach turning

13 posted on 05/12/2011 8:52:58 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (Some minds are like cement; thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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**I quite frankly doubt that dress has much to do with being rap**

Then why do hookers dress a certain way?


14 posted on 05/12/2011 8:54:12 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ansel12

My question exactly. Quite an extreme.


15 posted on 05/12/2011 8:56:19 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Oops.

**I quite frankly doubt that dress has much to do with being raped**


16 posted on 05/12/2011 8:57:17 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Something I’ve never heard explained is how male gynecologists and physicians are able to view nude women without getting a sexual reaction. I would guess they are desensitized, but does that carry over in the way they look at women in normal life?


17 posted on 05/12/2011 9:35:03 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby
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"Among normal human populations, the rapist will pick a target ahead of time or take an opportunistic chance."

Agreed. Rape generally has more to do with power over and degrading the victim. "She was asking for it because...." has been the rapist's go-to excuse.

I agree with the article. And let me tell you, it is not easy teaching this to teenage girls with all the outside influences touting the opposite view.

18 posted on 05/12/2011 9:44:35 PM PDT by greatplains
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To: Jo Nuvark

A return to Christian modesty is just a return to Christian modesty. It has nothing to do with Islam.


19 posted on 05/12/2011 9:46:31 PM PDT by vladimir998 (When anti-Catholics can't debate they just make stuff up.)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby
Something I’ve never heard explained is how male gynecologists and physicians are able to view nude women without getting a sexual reaction. I would guess they are desensitized, but does that carry over in the way they look at women in normal life?

I don't know what that has to do with rape, but: gynecologists see the least attractive and least sexy aspect of women. Ninety-nine percent of the women they see are NOT NOT NOT in the least bit attractive. Believe me, looking at the underside of an overweight middle-aged woman, or a pregnant lady, or a grandma, with a bright light shining on everything, sampling the various excretions and diseases there, is absolutely not sexually exciting. So don't worry, the OB/GYN is not dying of desire while he's sticking a speculum up your wife and withdrawing a smear to examine for cervical cancer.

But when they get out on the street or in a normal sexual situation, they still find women attractive again and respond in normal ways.

20 posted on 05/12/2011 10:38:29 PM PDT by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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