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To: Cronos
Monarchy is an outdated concept

Certainly it is. As outdated as slavery, bond servants and some of the remaining economic slavery schemes of today.

Some of my mother's ancestors were from Finland. Her family never talked about that. Some of the men served in the "White Russian Army" before they were able to immigrate. The decedents were ashamed of that to the point of hiding their Finnish ancestry. Ask a Finn about Russian Domination and subjection. By the way, Finns have a history of being good soldiers, the Russians (Communist) hated and feared them during a stage in WWII.

Free men do not have to ask permission. Serfs (to a king) do.

140 posted on 05/10/2011 4:58:31 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil
here's something I wonder if you knew -- a lot of the Muscovites have Finnic blood. As the Slavs were moving north from their Urhmeit (homeland) of south-east poland - western ukraine - belarus, they fought with the Uralic (Finno-Magyar) tribes that lived in the northern stretches and assimilated many of them.

Some of these resisted and became the famed Magyar (hungarian) warriors who terrorized Europe from the 9th to the 12 century

But the stranger part is that Muscovy seems imho to be a continuation of the Mongol empire

141 posted on 05/10/2011 5:06:47 AM PDT by Cronos (Libspeak: "Yes there is proof. And no, for the sake of privacy I am not posting it here.")
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To: Texas Fossil
Ask a Finn about Russian Domination and subjection

Wasn't Mannerheim in the White Movement? Just asking.

I would agree that Russia had no busuness in the Germanic lands nor in Poland; even though Ostseean knights did not mind at all serving the Tsar. I wish there were more of them.

The worst that Finland suffered was from the USSR and not from the Russian monarchy. Ditto for Poland.

168 posted on 05/10/2011 7:37:31 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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